Can't achieve studio quality...

[fraserhutch]

I'm on 5 other forums, and they're pretty much the same way except for one, but it's boring as shit....

LOL, yet you keep going back, it appears

 

[sloom]

I do teach, moron.

And I'm not anonymous like you are.

*Ouch* (have another 'Rep point', Fraser )!

This place isn't your personal venue for whatever you feel like venting. Or, maybe it is?

Make it what you want it to be.

Well, back to that knitting...

 

[jonnyc]

LOL, yet you keep going back, it appears

Yeah well I sit at work in front of a computer for hours on end. Nothing else to do.

 

[Beck]

I am a guitarist in a band and me and my bassist have tried everything to achieve studio quality in our sound. We are going for a hard rock sound. To record guitar, we usually have my guitar plugged in to a GNX 1 distortion factory (a $200 guitar pedal, for those of you who don't play guitar) and then output to a 30W amp. We mic the amp with an Audix i5. Sometimes we have the Audix go to a mixer and sometimes we have the Audix go directly to the computer, it doesn't seem to make a difference. When we have the guitar recorded, it sounds fine on our nice computer speakers, but it doesn't sound studio quality on car speakers, headphones, or home stereo systems. It always seems to be lacking the brightness you hear in professional band's guitar work. Now, we have tried everything to get it to sound good. We have recorded in a livingroom, a bedroom, a garage, and a bathroom. We have messed with mic placement, and we have even mixed the Audix i5 with an Audix condenser mic, but to no avail. Can anyone suggest something to help us out? Much appreciated.

P.S. The sound card in our computer is a SoundBlaster Live!. We are using Sonar 5 to record, if that matters.

I didn't read through all the responses (Lucky me, I have a felling), so if someone already went into this, just consider that I concur.

If it sounds fine to you on your monitors, but not on anything else the chief problem is your monitoring system (not that there aren't other problems).

Investing in a decent set of monitors is one of the best things you can do. A speaker system that isn’t flat in an untreated room will give you an inaccurate representation of your recording. The worst thing you can have is a speaker that makes your mix sound better than it is.

There are a lot of good monitors to choose from. I use the Yorkville YSM-1i for nearfield (close) monitoring.

Monitor your mix at moderate levels. Too loud also gives a false representation – more bright and bassy than it really is, due to the Fletcher-Munson Effect.

http://www.allchurchsound.com/ACS/edart/fmelc.html

I’ve known people who struggled for years with hi-fi stereo speakers, many of which aren’t designed to be true, but emphasize highs and bass. What you get when you mix on these is something with too much mid frequency, which sounds dull and honky on other systems.

~Tim

 

[RAMI]

Hey, that was Beck!

 

[mrT]

Is it just me or did this thread go somewhere very wrong with post #2... Chess, you know how to record and you occasionally use this to help people (I've actually LEARNED from some of your posts) but if you don't have something positive to say don't say anything at all. This forum is to HELP people, not belittle them for their newb status. If all of you "professionals" get annoyed by these posts stop reading them... and PLEASE stop posting loads of your bullshit opinions that help noone (Unless you like to think of your Ego as a seperate person).

Now it seems to me that nobody is actually trying to help this kid. His question seems to be "how can I make a guitar recording that isn't muddy with what I have. The Answer... Play around with the gear you have (you seem to have tried mic placement etc. but have you tried a little bit of EQ? maybe some compression?) If you can't get an acceptable sound then you need to upgrade some equiptment. (good sound card, maybe a half-decent pre-amp). Don't worry too much about studio monitors at this point. Save that money for gear that is in the signal chain. cause if you don't have that end in line the monitors are like gold trim on a pinto. Just make sure to check you sounds in every stereo you can to get a nice idea about how it will sound to everyone else (actually you should NEVER stop doing this even if you get some nice monitors).

If it offends you that people post these questions in a HOME RECORDING forum then you need a life. Why would you tell him to got to a studio if he's obviously more interested in doing it himself AT HOME (there's that title again)

P.S. If you feel it nessecary to give me negative feedback for this you can suck a dick and get a life...(at the same time?)

 

[RAMI]

I'm trying to figure out what Chess said that was so wrong. He probably gave him the best possible advice. Is it because he said "fucking"....OH MY GOD!!! I've never ever heard anyone swear on the internet before.

 

[mrT]

What's the point of telling someone who posts in a home recording forum to go to a studio? I'm guessing he already knew that he could (or couldn't afford to) do that. Some one asked for help in a forum that is supposed to provide it. Instead of help he was told that he will never be able to do that for himself and to just quit now. Really helpful right...

As far as the language goes... I personally don't give a fuck. Can't we all just get along and share recording information in a constructive way??? PLEASE!!!

 

[jonnyc]

What's the point of telling someone who posts in a home recording forum to go to a studio? I'm guessing he already knew that he could (or couldn't afford to) do that. Some one asked for help in a forum that is supposed to provide it. Instead of help he was told that he will never be able to do that for himself and to just quit now. Really helpful right...

As far as the language goes... I personally don't give a fuck. Can't we all just get along and share recording information in a constructive way??? PLEASE!!!

Because he wanted more of a studio sound.

 

[Dogman]

Oh man!!!!!!!!!!! My brain hurts now.

 

[mrT]

well for one he wanted to know how he could do that himself and second I think "studio sound" to him is "less like ass" to us. I'm not trying to tell him that he can get that sound with his stuff (If he can he's better that ayone here). I'm trying to give advice as to how to acheive a better sound with what he has (or suggest some usefull additions). Either way I didn't make fun of him or insult him because he doesn't have all that much expirience.

 

[RAMI]

well for one he wanted to know how he could do that himself and second I think "studio sound" to him is "less like ass" to us. I'm not trying to tell him that he can get that sound with his stuff (If he can he's better that ayone here). I'm trying to give advice as to how to acheive a better sound with what he has (or suggest some usefull additions). Either way I didn't make fun of him or insult him because he doesn't have all that much expirience.

Well, if you choose to make up your own interpretations of what you think someone meant, that's up to you. Since I don't know this guy, I can just go on what he says. He said "CAN'T ACHIEVE STUDIO QUALITY..."

Fucking Chessrock's fucking advice was fucking good fucking advice.

 

[jonnyc]

Well, if you choose to make up your own interpretations of what you think someone meant, that's up to you. Since I don't know this guy, I can just go on what he says. He said "CAN'T ACHIEVE STUDIO QUALITY..."

Fucking Chessrock's fucking advice was fucking good fucking advice.

Fuckin fuck yeah man, great motherfuckin advice, at least that's what I fuckin thought.

 

[soundchaser59]

Now I understand why the real pros in this place dont post very much..... they dont want to be associated with this kind of bickering crap....

I thought HR was a decent place, but this is the kind of thread that tells Kyle015 he should google for some other forums.....

Like I said......

 

[mrT]

Like I said......

For real... you quoted yourself. nice

Am I the only one that thinks actually trying to help someone is a good idea?

 

[mrT]

Well, if you choose to make up your own interpretations of what you think someone meant, that's up to you. Since I don't know this guy, I can just go on what he says. He said "CAN'T ACHIEVE STUDIO QUALITY..."

Fucking Chessrock's fucking advice was fucking good fucking advice.

SO if you don't have a studio you can't get studio quality... got it. Guess I'll just sell all of my stuff and all of you can quit subscribing to this forum because it's a home recording forum for making only recordings that don't compete with a studio's. NO wait... that the complete oppostie of what this forum is about. It's about how you CAN get a studio sound in your home... which is what he was asking. instead he (and everyone else) got an earfull of shit from people that are supposed to be here to help each other.

 

[Harvey Gerst]

He might also consider bringing his mics and equipment to a studio and watch how the engineer sets it all up; it could be a valuable learning experience. Or he could make friends with a nearby studio engineer and invite them to his place and offer to trade a case of beer for some help.

Most professional engineers are pretty friendly and like a challenge.

 

[mrT]

Most professional engineers are pretty friendly and like a challenge.

unless it's one of the Assholes that roam this board.

 

[Farview]

SO if you don't have a studio you can't get studio quality... got it. Guess I'll just sell all of my stuff and all of you can quit subscribing to this forum because it's a home recording forum for making only recordings that don't compete with a studio's. NO wait... that the complete oppostie of what this forum is about. It's about how you CAN get a studio sound in your home... which is what he was asking. instead he (and everyone else) got an earfull of shit from people that are supposed to be here to help each other.

He is actually getting help in the other thread he started.

 

[RAMI]

hehe...Let's all pretend to be clairvoyant and be able to know for a fact why the so-called "real pros" don't post here. My highly-informed based-on-nothing-but-my-own-perception opinion is that "real pros" wouldn't want to hang out in a forum where 20 new people a day come and ask the same un-aswereable question without doing a search to see if it has already been answered.

So, yes, I agree, this is the kind of thread that would keep any pro away.