I must say that orange amps simply rock. Crate bass stuff, especially the cheap stuff, is utter crap. I like the tone of some Peavey stuff, but many times they seem to give misleading (incorrect) power ratings on their bass amps, not to mention put too lowly rated speakers in the amps. Then again, I guess if you want cheap bass distortion, Peavey's are probably a good thing (but if you're not turning up super loud for practice anyway, I guess this doesn't matter).