Behringer UGPro MIC2200 v. VTB-1 Pre

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i've never heard the behringer...

but i don't think that's a very good assesment chessrock.
 
Sorry, Wes, I forgot . . .

The Behringer Ultragain has two channels as opposed to one, and also has EQ.
 
So, if the Behringer has 2 channels v. the VTB's 1, but is less expensive, can I assume it's not as clean (hence the lower price)?
 
dc, be sure to factor in that when a Behringer breaks,
the "customer service" will probably be the polar opposite of
Studio Projects- and that ain't good.

Can't speak on the Ultragain however, the VTB-1 is a good
sounding pre. Check if you can dial the "toob" path out of the
Behringer though. If you can't, that's a dead give away the pre
won't be as "clean", regardless of any other factors.
Unless we're talking about something like a Manley for much
more $$ than this range. Dave Martin (pro engineer) has written
regarding the Behringer and basically said it sounded cheap and
the EQ was harsh. Let your ears be the judge though.

Chris
 
The 2200 is just a noisy POS. The tube is actually not in the path on that unit but is lit by an led for show. The only upside is that It could be mounted in a rack. The Audiobuddy will give better results.
 
The Behringer is the pot; it has a big glowy tube . . . the vtb1 is the kettle and it has a tube that sits there and adds a little nasty dirt. When all is said and done, they're both kind of an off-black color.
 
chessparov said:
dc, be sure to factor in that when a Behringer breaks,
the "customer service" will probably be the polar opposite of
Studio Projects- and that ain't good.

Chris
Click to expand...

When it comes to customer service, ask your retailer. The store that I deal with told me that if a Behringer product is defective, to return it to the store, and THEY will return it to Behringer. Behringer has never given THEM a hard time with returns, etc. Also, the store also told me that they don't get any more Behringer products returned than those of any other manufacturer.

Chris
 
The melting pot seems to be calling the kettle black when it boils over, but only on our own soil so a little boy holds a toy soldier and waits for the suits and ties to come home. We won't wait till he's older to destroy hopes of a colder war, look now get a close up of his head.
 
But his head is kind of red, for his uncle Fred just got out of bed and kicked him with his boots of lead.

The pot spills all over the floor, leaving spots by the door.

The mailman trips on the steps, breaks his hips and spills his Schwep's.

The boy lunges for his uncle Fred . . . and munches on his body, now dead.
 
I've used both. I think the VTB-1 is obviously a better and more versatile pre, IMO. But we're talking a single-channel at $179 vs a two-channel + EQ for $99.

The Ultragain pro is definitely a better pre than the Audio Buddy. The Ultragain is 19" rackmountable, has its own internal power supply and XLR outs.

You can listen to all three mic pres here.

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Dan Richards
Digital Pro Sound
The Listening Sessions
 
I agree with Dot. His listening sessions are an obvious answer to your question. I had the same question until i listened to the clips he posted with the drums machine through each. The behringer is much more thin and weak. Listen for yourself and see what you like.

Brandon
 
I'll probably go with the VTB for its fuller sound, albeit fewer bells and whistles, per all yuz wizened poopsters. Dirty kettles and deadhead uncles included, thanks for all the posts which helped lift the haze a bit. Now I can boldly stumble a little deeper into the sound maze. Hmmm, what was that gizmo I read about last night...??
 
I just picked up a Biamp Advantage ONE on eBay because it was dirt cheap. Here's the eBay description:

"Biamp Advantage One 8 Channel Rackmount Microphone Mixer. 8 Channels Of Xlr Microphone inputs, pads, two band eq with sweep and notchfilters. channel 8 has a broken gain control potentiometer otherwise fully functional."

So it's slightly busted and not equipped with 48V phantom power(but I should be able to replace the bad pot pretty easily).

Here's the thing, Biamp still sells an optional $125 module that provides +48 phantom power on all 8 channels. Question is, is the Advantage ONE a POS and should I just chalk it up as a loss and march out and get me the VTB-1, or is this a relatively OK piece of gear, and should I belly up the $$ for the phantom power module?

My guess is the VTB-1 is still cleaner. Although it does limit me to a single channel, I'm going to be recording myself and I'm only good for one instrument at a time anyway. And my vocals need all the help they can get.
 
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