
good grief.
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Well mine is what i think the room stould be, but for how it is setup now.
Sorry, never mind about that point, it was really meant for Ethan. Incase he looked at my recommendation and saw the door behind the mixing position, not infront of it like it is now.Hey pandamonk, I don't get what you mean.
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As to the "weak bass" reference...the more bass traps you add, your perception of "bass" in the room will improve, which allows you to mix with trust. When your room lies to you during recording(it colors the sound from the monitors, it lies to you again when you mix. Therefore, you never know how your mixes will "translate".
.38 the length of the long wall
Yeah the .38 rule for where you're sitting.As far as the position of my mix location should I be using the .38 rule I read about?
Now for bass traps what would be better the foam corner dealies or these...?
http://www.gikacoustics.com/gik_244.html
How many of either would I need for my size room?
Bear in mind the corner with the door can't have anything that may block the door - it's the door to the back yard.
I am going to have some friends come by to record today and I trust their ears and intend to ask them what they hear. I'm wondering if they notice the same problem as me...![]()
I can't believe, YET, that JUST two path lengths is the complete answer.
Yeah but Ethan, it's not the rear wall. It's the front and side walls.Believe it baby.
Seriously, it doesn't matter if you have a door that's open or an open passage with no door. With a normal rear wall, the entire wall surface reflects at the same time. This not only creates comb filter peaks and nulls, it also resonates based on the distance to the front wall.
If the back wall has an opening to another room or closet or whatever, you now have two reflections at different times. Hence the "QRD" analogy. Even if the opening goes outside and has no reflection at all, that still helps by reducing the total amount of reflected sound.
This is not rocket surgery!
--Ethan
Yeah but Ethan, it's not the rear wall. It's the front and side walls.
I understand and believe your point, placing absorption panels on the back wall spaced apart does the same thing, but if there is a door that opens/an opening into another room, then doesn't that effectively add both together to make it like one big room? For example, my drum booth and vocal booth corridor. With the door open, it's effectively like a 12'x9' room with a big 10'x4' chunk out of it, and 2 1'x1' pillars.Believe it baby.
Seriously, it doesn't matter if you have a door that's open or an open passage with no door. With a normal rear wall, the entire wall surface reflects at the same time. This not only creates comb filter peaks and nulls, it also resonates based on the distance to the front wall.
If the back wall has an opening to another room or closet or whatever, you now have two reflections at different times. Hence the "QRD" analogy. Even if the opening goes outside and has no reflection at all, that still helps by reducing the total amount of reflected sound.
This is not rocket surgery!
--Ethan
Yeah, that's why i said don't look at my drawing recommendation.All openings are good.
At this point I feel I'm addressing a moving target, and looking at many different drawings of the same room made by three people.
If there's a coherent question in there I'll try to answer. Otherwise, carry on.
--Ethan
With Ethan's QRD thing, it just makes the depth much larger, and therefore the effectiveness to much deeper frequencies. I suspect it's the same with Rick's, and with mine it makes it effectively one even larger room, changing the room response, modes, etc. I suspect the affect it has is all three. It's cerutainly not just QRD, because you can hear a complete change in reverb and room response(i noticed a huge change when i installed doors in the studio). It sound like a much bigger room with the open door/without a door.This seems like a great opportunity to confuse the issue even more
Did I mention that the back storage room has a 5' X 3' tiled bathroom adjoining it? When I open both of those doors then what happens?
Seriously though, you guys have been a REALLY HUGE HELP so far. I've gone from scratching my head to actually having a semblance of a plan for dealing with the problems...
Financial constraints may dictate which actions I take at this point. I believe it would be interesting to study DIY bass traps since I am a DIY kinda dude.
Yeah DIY is good. What kind of budget do you have? What skills? My absorber design requires woodwork and sewing skillsThis seems like a great opportunity to confuse the issue even more
Did I mention that the back storage room has a 5' X 3' tiled bathroom adjoining it? When I open both of those doors then what happens?
Seriously though, you guys have been a REALLY HUGE HELP so far. I've gone from scratching my head to actually having a semblance of a plan for dealing with the problems...
Financial constraints may dictate which actions I take at this point. I believe it would be interesting to study DIY bass traps since I am a DIY kinda dude.
Yeah DIY is good. What kind of budget do you have? What skills? My absorber design requires woodwork and sewing skills.