ART stuff

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Hey everyone,

I am looking to buy an ART TPS II, dual tube mic pre.

Does anyone know anything about this unit. Or about ART stuff in general?

Any comment would be appreciated,

Thanks
 
Cheap-toob pre != tube pre

I'd look at an RNP or a DMP-3 instead of toob crap....
 
ART stuff is entry level to mid-range. The budget art stuff is pretty much just that, budget gear. As bluebear said, cheap tube tech does not give you expensive tube sound. Tube and toob... two very different types of gear!

It's been argued that a lot of good recordings is what you do with the gear. I'm sure you can get decent, quite probably even good sounds, with a $150 dollar pre. But do NOT expect it to give you the same performance as something that's priced at 4 or 5 times that.

I've used a VLA Pro compressor during some recordings not long ago. The higher end stuff (if you can call it that, given the price ranging) is very good quality for what you pay. I'm planning on getting the VLA Pro down the road.

But if you want quality mic pres from ART, I'd start looking at the MPA Gold or its digital counterpart. But those could set you back $400 or $500, money which may be better spent on gear thats going to give you more character to your recordings, if you so desire. The MPA equipment, imho, while not totally transparent, is fairly cold. It doesn't 'warm' things up as much as other gear.

But for $400/$500, i think there are probably better pres out there to start off with.

The golden rule is you'll get what you pay for. Buy lower end stuff, you'll end up with a lower end piece of hardware. A $500 car is gonna run like a $500 car...

There's still a lot you can do with it, and for starting out with, or experimenting, whatever, $200 or so isn't a lot of money comparatively, so it may be worth it to see how you like it, how it works for you, if you like it, etc.

buy from MusiciansFriend, you get 45 days to make up your mind. I like that.

And for future reference, the search function on the board gives you very good results for many questions which have been asked before. Try punching in models or equipment you're looking at, seeing what comes back. More than likely, someone's already put up "This is SUCH A GREAT BARGAINOMGLOLZ!!!one" or "d00d...this is crap. i'm taking it back."
 
I think ART crap is pretty good, considering it's crap. I mean, of all the crappy stuff out there, ART is probably the least crappy, and is sometimes borderline decent. Pro VLA -- perfectly acceptable dual opto compressor. DIO - not a bad little budget a/d d/a.

Art Pro MPA -- not total crap in the least. Tube MP makes a pretty good DI for bass, keys, or other unbalanced instrument-level inputs. And an "okay" budget mic pre in some cases.
 
Although preamps are often portrayed as existing on a hierarchical scale, with ART in general existing on the bottom rung, it is common experience, (or atleast my own, with my cheap-ass equipment), that modern bottom rung recording equipment can excel at a few tasks if used with intelligence. The tube mp for instance…awesome DI for bass and keys as already mentioned, and i’ve used it for kick drum and grungy vocals with cool results. Those are 4 tasks that got covered in my lil’ project studio for what…less than 50 bucks? They are cheap enough that you CAN get yer dmp’s or RNP’s, and still find justified uses for the ART stuff after the fact…
 
I'm in total agreement with Chessrock on ART, although I would have used the word "crap" a few less times because I don't think it's quite *that* crappy. Certainly not when compared to most units in the same price range. I should also comment that ART customer service is excellent in my experience. ART is not a company like the "B" word that sells product and then doesn't support it. ART is a real company that sells decent product and takes care of their customers.

I own a PRO VLA and a couple ART DI/O's, and find them useful and worth having.
 
I use the ART MP tube pre, but then I know how to sing. It's just fine if you don't overdue the tubessence. ART has some good products.
 
I like the low-end stuff for what it does. What concerns me is that ART has gotten really gimmicky lately, which probably further muddies their capacitor-happy designs.

But for a righteous harmonic distortion generator, you can't beat a Tube MP with a decent tube swapped in.
 
I have heard that Art has been purchased by Yorrkville, the makers of some pretty good monitors. I would think that the quality of this line should improve.
 
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