Are USB studio monitors any good?

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I was wondering if USB reference monitors (like Samson StudioDock 4i or Alesis M1 Active 520 USB) are better than similarly priced regular studio monitors if you are using them with a laptop without an external soundboard.

I know I can still use regular monitors with an RCA cable, but I was thinking that maybe if you didn't have a good sound output (and I only have the regular headphone out), you wouldn't be able to squeeze all the juice from better monitors anyway...

Also, which of those two do you think is better? I'm gonna go to a showroom and try them anyway, I'm just curious.

This is my first thread, thanks!

PS: I just want a good set of speakers to listen to music, watch movies and use my electric piano.
 
Why not just use a good set of headphones? The speakers are probably better than most that shipped with your computer, but they aren't a stereo or other things that you could likely resale on craigslist for a decent return. Plus used speakers generally don't hold much value. There's a reason that they steal your radio, not your entire sound system from your car. And it's not just time and access. For the cash, you'd be better served getting studio monitors with TRS and XLR inputs at a minimum. Maybe even an interface and cables to boot.

There's a general rule, buy cheap, buy twice. If you're a poor student, or if you're just not sure if you really want to get into the recording thing, they might be of use. Otherwise why not save up for something better?
 
I'm not really interested in recording and here (Argentina) the set of speakers you guys pay U$S150 costs U$S350 because of shipping and taxes. Besides, I don't *want* to spend more money on speakers, I understand I won't be getting anything good for that money, I'm only asking what would be "less worse"... There's no way I'm getting an interfase, I would put it to no use at all, I'm a mechanical engineer, not a musician or anything like that. I already have a home theater, I just wanted something for my laptop that wouldn't be as bad as a pair of computer speakers. Also, I feel very uncomfortable wearing headphones... I just want to know if USB is better than a regular RCA cable

thanks...
 
I'm not really interested in recording and here (Argentina) the set of speakers you guys pay U$S150 costs U$S350 because of shipping and taxes. Besides, I don't *want* to spend more money on speakers, I understand I won't be getting anything good for that money, I'm only asking what would be "less worse"... There's no way I'm getting an interfase, I would put it to no use at all, I'm a mechanical engineer, not a musician or anything like that. I already have a home theater, I just wanted something for my laptop that wouldn't be as bad as a pair of computer speakers. Also, I feel very uncomfortable wearing headphones... I just want to know if USB is better than a regular RCA cable

thanks...

Forgive us for assuming that your post on HomeRecording.com was about a home recording application.

One can't possibly generalize about USB speakers versus those with line level analog inputs. Putting the converter outside the computer case has advantages, but who's to say that they aren't outweighed by some other design deficiency in the USB product?

Using them for your electric piano means passing MIDI or audio through the computer to get sound from the speakers. That's liable to result in some amount of latency (delay) between the time you hit a key and the time you hear the sound. It may or may not be enough to bother you.
 
I know this isn't exactly on topic but I didn't know where else to ask about monitors. Anyway, I wrote that I just wanted to use them for general music listening. Plus, both of those speakers also have a TRS input, so I can plug the keyboard through those.
 
What's wrong with your home theater system, that you couldn't use it?

You don't really "need" those USB speakers / monitors IMO. 1/8" to RCA, perhaps some extensions and a longer cable to reach your home theater system. Costs maybe $40 in cables and those adapter things for the extension. Maybe less USD wise. Same functionality IMO.

Not that the USB monitors wont sound good, but you'll likely have a USB latency from your keyboard, then an additional latency to the USB monitors. USB is a slow bus. At least until 3.0 gets more mainstream. Plus it only provides like 5V of power, so just how good could those monitors be? Probably not better than your home theater system IMO.
 
Sorry, but apparently I came to the wrong place, I'm just really dissappointed that nobody answered my question really. Just to clearify things: I need the speakers for a different room and I won't havea USB latency from the keybord because it would be plugged to the TRS input on the speakers. Plus, the speakers use regular AC 110v power, they have a 60w amp. I like that you have tried to offer different solutions, but the thing is I'm getting cheap monitors for my keyboard and it would be nice to be able to use my computer with them, I just wanted to know if USB was better than the regular analog audio cable, too bad this didn't work out...
 
USB is a digital data bus. audio cable is an analog signal? I'm just trying to figure out how you think that those USB monitors are somehow better than a $50 RADIO with RCA input from say Radio Shack? Aside from the DAC on them that might be mildly better than the soundcard that came with your computer. Not that those things are a lot of cash, but you could probably get $30-ish for the radio when you sell it. Where those monitors being specialized would have many folks asking what is it, and then concluding that they've lived without it for 40 years and saying no thanks. Do you see my point?

You seem to be trying to find a need for the device. Instead of having a need and a device that satisfies that need. i.e. A headphone preamp could take your TRS output from the keyboard and forward that to your existing USB powered and cheap PC speakers. Or a pair of headphones, but your keyboard probably already has a headphone jack if it outputs an analog sound signal and not just MIDI only events. The headphone preamp can be had for $50 or less including 1/4" to 1/8" adapter and 1/8" to RCA cable. And IMO, the quality would be roughly the same. Granted more plugs and cables and not as pretty perhaps.

Samson Audio - StudioDock 4i

StudioDock 4i - Active USB Monitors

http://s3.amazonaws.com/samsontech/related_docs/StudioDock4i.pdf

A bit more than I thought on them.

An iPod dock --- ohhhh

20W of power each --- ahhhh

65Hz - 23kHz frequency response --- ewwww
(human hearing is considered 20Hz - 20kHz)
(i.e. Hope you're not into BOOM BOOM music)

16 bit and 44.1Khz or 48kHz --- ehhhh
(kind of the norm for USB stuff)

Doesn't even appear to have TRS or XLR inputs. Just RCA or USB. With speaker outs (i.e. wires with crimps). The image shows an Aux input on the front that appears to be TRS. But who knows what it actually is. unbalanced / TS? It'll probably work.

Just to keep perspective, here's an audio sweep. Starting tone is 65Hz, the BOTTOM spec of those monitors. Your existing speakers should reproduce this pitch and perhaps most of the rest of them too. But according to spec, those monitors WONT reproduce the swept tones. Not that it actually wont, but they got the specs from somewhere. The clip is 2 seconds of 65Hz sine wav. 3 second null / pause, then 0.5 seconds for 65Hz to 20Hz per whole number Hz. I probably should have used pluck versus sine, but oh well. Just to illustrate the LIMITS of that which you are considering buying. To my ears, the bottom couple of keys on an 88 key keyboard is well within that range of frequencies. Which might drive you bonkers to be playing the note, having your gear generate it, but the speakers DON'T. Simply maddening...

 
I just wanted to know if USB was better than the regular analog audio cable, too bad this didn't work out...

The answer is maybe, maybe not. It's like asking if gas engines are better than diesel engines. It depends on your needs (which you stated) and which particular products are compared (which you did not specify).

High speed USB can go 5m, up to 25m with hubs every 5m. Unbalanced shielded audio cable can go 3m safely, more with the risk of signal degradation. Neither is designed for long distances.
 
This is my first thread, thanks!
No need to get all smart with the OP, people. The guy was just asking a question.

I've never used usb speakers before, but I wouldn't imagine they'd be very bad. I looked up a review on the Samsons and the guy said they were pretty good! They just lacked a little low end.

It's good that you're gonna go to a showroom and test them out. That's really the only way to know for sure!

Personally, I'd probably just go for the usb speakers!
 
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