rob aylestone
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Guitar preamps are NOT designed to maintain sonic integrity - they are deliberately designed to create a new one. They also don't have to bring such tiny signals up to the level mic preamps do.
What! A Stratocaster would sound fantastic plugged into a wooden table.. A strat or LP really doesn't sound all that great unaltered.
I tried, plugged my Strat into the kitchen table. Thought it might sound woody. Sounded weak and wimpy. While I was there, I tried the microwave, thinking it might warm things up. Nope. The fridge just left me cold. I'll stick with my Princeton clone, or one of my other amps for now.What! A Stratocaster would sound fantastic plugged into a wooden table.
Just joining in on what seems to be good natured fun. Interesting thread. Didn't see too much reference to how many of these pre's need to be pushed hard and that is where distortion (aka color) comes into play. Most pre's are pretty linear at least till they are not. It's a feature not a bug.Yes, Folkcafe, I was referring to electric guitar players. I would say it was extremely rare for someone to actually record a guitar straight into an interface and leaves it that way. A strat or LP really doesn't sound all that great unaltered. Our perception of electric guitars is through an amp, and these days, it's supposed to be cranked and pedaled.
Most acoustic players I know are just trying to amplify their natural guitar sound. (It's been years since I've heard any Michael Hedges, since his Windham Hill days. I think I might have a couple of his CDs downstairs in the pile. I know I have some George Winstons) I don't think I knew what he was using back then.
Acoustic folks are doing (for the most part) what I stated above "If you are trying to get a high fidelity representation of a performance, or even get a realistic rendering of instruments or voices, then I would rather start with as genuine a facsimile as I can get." Clearly, if you are trying to do a performance for 2-3000 people at once, you need to amplify the signal.
A Pendulum unit would easily fit in that vein. Pendulum states that their goal is to get "a high level of sonic accuracy" in their products, not to make them colorful.
How would I do that? Is that different from a cascade? Use a 2 channel like a cascade? Take channel 1's output from the Spidiff digital output and route that to channel 2's input? Because that is the A/D/A converter out far as I know.Even the new one where you push your A to D converters to the edge.
So this is all you got out of all that? A to D not A to D to A. Follow? Pushing your converter going to the limit. There was a post in another forum but I've been hearing about this for a bit. Where exactly is clipping going in to your computer. Is it really when your meters tell you? Push it and find out. Take a good look at the waveform. Some converters have a bit more headroom than they let on. So just like a preamp, you push it to the limit. How far? What's it sound like? What does it look like in the wave form. I do recall when my Digi clipped, it clipped. Not pleasant to listen too either. A Burl converter is going to be in a different class than a low end Focusrite. It's the same with pre's including those copies of the classics. You saturate a transformer in an old pre and you've got color. You push something like a Millenia which has headroom for days, you'll not get anything but clean gain. Hey what do I know? Many on here think there is not a bit of difference between any of them.How would I do that? Is that different from a cascade? Use a 2 channel like a cascade? Take channel 1's output from the Spidiff digital output and route that to channel 2's input? Because that is the A/D/A converter out far as I know.
Not sure if you are serious or just a serious trollHuh ...should I use the Spidiff then, back into the channel 2? Push it with the spidiff.
The Spidiff is the digital out. That part has the converter?
What? No, you simply push the input gain enough to push the to hit 0dbfs. There is no need to cascade anything or do anything weird, just turn up the gain too high.How would I do that? Is that different from a cascade? Use a 2 channel like a cascade? Take channel 1's output from the Spidiff digital output and route that to channel 2's input? Because that is the A/D/A converter out far as I know.
Context really escapes you. In a world of so many subtleties, you sure miss a lot of details in your world of binary choices. Your nonsensical commentary also makes dialog pretty much pointless. I guess you win then. What? I don't know.'Even the new one' is: turn the gain knob till it clips at zero....Yeah that is not new, and not a technique. I was thinking it must be something else.