Steenamaroo
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not helpful at all,,,but have u ever done any bowie covers?
certain bits you sing sound a lot like him to me
certain bits you sing sound a lot like him to me
K
K-dub
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not helpful at all,,,but have u ever done any bowie covers?
certain bits you sing sound a lot like him to me
Yes, I do a mean version of "Suffragette City" and "Ziggy Stardust". (not kidding either)
Thanks for the extreme compliment!
Kev-
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K-dub
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I'd make the bass lines a little busier, but I suck at bass ... and generally can only hold down a basic line w/o flourish.
If any real bass player wants to take a pass at it, I'd be happy to provide this tune this w/o that part in it.
Thanks Jeff -- good ideas -- I'm just incapable of carrying that out. I know my limitations.
Steenamaroo
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Yes, I do a mean version of "Suffragette City" and "Ziggy Stardust". (not kidding either)
Thanks for the extreme compliment!
Kev-
wow! i'd love to hear!!
any mp3s on the go?
K
K-dub
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Sadly, no ... but we used to play those two songs in my college band, and they were real crowd pleasers.
Steenamaroo
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well there ya go,,,wee project for ya! 
shoulda said earlier,,,,i really enjoyed that tune you posted up.
+1 for a real trumpet though,,,,i'm not a huge fan of that sound..
also...kinda wanted to hear a sustained fade out on strings and 'trumpet' rather than staggered stops? maybe even with the strings resolving as it fades?
that might just be me though!
in fairness,those are mix comments, and you did say to leave that for a while!
other than the outro fade lasting a bit long, arrangement sounds good to me!
shoulda said earlier,,,,i really enjoyed that tune you posted up.
+1 for a real trumpet though,,,,i'm not a huge fan of that sound..
also...kinda wanted to hear a sustained fade out on strings and 'trumpet' rather than staggered stops? maybe even with the strings resolving as it fades?
that might just be me though!
in fairness,those are mix comments, and you did say to leave that for a while!
other than the outro fade lasting a bit long, arrangement sounds good to me!
TeyshaBlue
It's the smell..
Well, I pulled my trumpet out this weekend. Frankly, I suck. It'll take a couple of weeks just to get my embouchure to behave and regain some semblance of performance control.
Long tone exercises, here I come.
It aint like riding a bicycle, that's for damned sure.
jeffmaher
New member
Send an mp3 sans bass, when you finalize the changes.... via yousendit or something..... and I'd like to take a crack at it. I'll convert the file and lay a track in whatever WAV res you work with, and send it back.
I took another listen, and I'm hearing things.
jeffmaherguitar@juno.com
I took another listen, and I'm hearing things.
jeffmaherguitar@juno.com
K
K-dub
Well-known member
K
K-dub
Well-known member
For anyone's knowledge, I'm a keyboard player ... and stringed instruments are my need to play because I suck at stringed instruments and yet as an arranger/songwriter, I was forced to learn how.
And so I do ... and sometimes, randomly, create something worthy of folks that know much better than I do ... but I trust others who simply are better to know better.
... and though I struggle, I've no prob admitting that. It's obvious.
Thanks Jeff ... on its way to you.
And so I do ... and sometimes, randomly, create something worthy of folks that know much better than I do ... but I trust others who simply are better to know better.
... and though I struggle, I've no prob admitting that. It's obvious.
Thanks Jeff ... on its way to you.
K
K-dub
Well-known member
Well, I pulled my trumpet out this weekend. Frankly, I suck. It'll take a couple of weeks just to get my embouchure to behave and regain some semblance of performance control.
It aint like riding a bicycle, that's for damned sure.
No matter what you deliver, you will be appreciated. Heck, you will be appreciated even if you don't deliver.
I can do a lot w/ sound, though. Don't worry or be shy.
K
K-dub
Well-known member
well there ya go,,,wee project for ya!
shoulda said earlier,,,,i really enjoyed that tune you posted up.
+1 for a real trumpet though,,,,i'm not a huge fan of that sound..
also...kinda wanted to hear a sustained fade out on strings and 'trumpet' rather than staggered stops? maybe even with the strings resolving as it fades?
that might just be me though!
in fairness,those are mix comments, and you did say to leave that for a while!
other than the outro fade lasting a bit long, arrangement sounds good to me!
I'm a HUGE fan of real sound, S ... it's just that I don't always get that opportunity ... so I make do.
After all, it's just sound. We can adjust. My ears and brain force the issue.
K
K-dub
Well-known member
Additionally, S ... I've little time to devote to side projects. I've almost no time to devote to my projects.
Sigh, life is good, but I'm not calling all the shots.
Sigh, life is good, but I'm not calling all the shots.
K
K-dub
Well-known member
Swamped w/ work ...
Jeff, I send you a link to d/l a high quality mp3 w/o bass tomorrow. I'll drop you a PM when it's ready.
Thanks!
K-
Jeff, I send you a link to d/l a high quality mp3 w/o bass tomorrow. I'll drop you a PM when it's ready.
Thanks!
K-
jeffmaher
New member
Roger that.
K
K-dub
Well-known member
Update following Jeff's brilliant contributions now available on the top link.
I LOVE working w/ such talented folks.
Kev-
I LOVE working w/ such talented folks.
Kev-
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
I think the bass part is excellent... Jeff"s??
But as "perfect" as it is, it is too busy and the tone isn't there. The part would be ok if the sound was a nice Ric or something like that.
I'm almost wanting to tell the bass guy..."hey...hold the song down and make it groove with the drummer. we need a foundation" But without the bass, the timing would be lost, I will give that.
there is timing with the staccato gtr at the end.. 4:04 or so.. maybe out before then if a fade? And speaking of the stacatto strat, earlier on in the song, it isn't mixed properly, as you can't hear it and it almost sounds like a clipped part... but not exactly. It is too low to contribute, but bringing it up in volume may just compete with the rest of the song. It could almost lay out until your final vamp out.
This is a wonderful song. TO ME, when these "problem areas" get fixed or changed, will do wonders for the song, although they seem small now.
Oh..go into Superior and pull the sidestick down a tad too. Seems unaturally loud, especially compared with the snare when it comes in.
EDIT..
after another listen, it seems the mix is rolled of at 80Htz or something. There is nothing down there and the bass is 70/30 with the kick. Maybe intentional, but that's why there doesn't seem to be a bottom. You might get away with some full frequency synth patch to add some oomph...but that could be tricky
But as "perfect" as it is, it is too busy and the tone isn't there. The part would be ok if the sound was a nice Ric or something like that.
I'm almost wanting to tell the bass guy..."hey...hold the song down and make it groove with the drummer. we need a foundation" But without the bass, the timing would be lost, I will give that.
there is timing with the staccato gtr at the end.. 4:04 or so.. maybe out before then if a fade? And speaking of the stacatto strat, earlier on in the song, it isn't mixed properly, as you can't hear it and it almost sounds like a clipped part... but not exactly. It is too low to contribute, but bringing it up in volume may just compete with the rest of the song. It could almost lay out until your final vamp out.
This is a wonderful song. TO ME, when these "problem areas" get fixed or changed, will do wonders for the song, although they seem small now.
Oh..go into Superior and pull the sidestick down a tad too. Seems unaturally loud, especially compared with the snare when it comes in.
EDIT..
after another listen, it seems the mix is rolled of at 80Htz or something. There is nothing down there and the bass is 70/30 with the kick. Maybe intentional, but that's why there doesn't seem to be a bottom. You might get away with some full frequency synth patch to add some oomph...but that could be tricky
jeffmaher
New member
And speaking of the stacatto strat, earlier on in the song, it isn't mixed properly, as you can't hear it and it almost sounds like a clipped part... but not exactly.
Yeah...an independent set of ears confirmed that same effect before I sent the track back. "Is that supposed to be there? Is that a pop?" That early part is less complete....too sporadic...and less aggressive than later; and an edit from one of the later, more solid identical parts would be better, I think.
the bass is 70/30 with the kick.
70/30 is a very good number! An occasional kick, singing by itself, isn't a bad thing, is it?
Mostly, I reckon, you're talking about the chorus....where the bass rides the rythmic figure created by the progression, instead of the kick. I decided to go with the progression...filling the bottom... to add 'break out momentum' to the chorus. I thought that sticking with the BD figure would keep the groove going, but not lift the part up and away from the verses.
Is there such a thing as a 'nice Rick'? [kidding]
Anyhow, that's the splanations.
I agree on the first Strat part.
My instincts tell me that alteration of the kick figure in the choruses would be preferable to the bass following the kick.
Yeah...an independent set of ears confirmed that same effect before I sent the track back. "Is that supposed to be there? Is that a pop?" That early part is less complete....too sporadic...and less aggressive than later; and an edit from one of the later, more solid identical parts would be better, I think.
the bass is 70/30 with the kick.
70/30 is a very good number! An occasional kick, singing by itself, isn't a bad thing, is it?
Mostly, I reckon, you're talking about the chorus....where the bass rides the rythmic figure created by the progression, instead of the kick. I decided to go with the progression...filling the bottom... to add 'break out momentum' to the chorus. I thought that sticking with the BD figure would keep the groove going, but not lift the part up and away from the verses.
Is there such a thing as a 'nice Rick'? [kidding]
Anyhow, that's the splanations.
I agree on the first Strat part.
My instincts tell me that alteration of the kick figure in the choruses would be preferable to the bass following the kick.
K
K-dub
Well-known member
Got it on the strat ... and now I hear it too. I think the copy/paste solution will be an easy fix. You're not getting any bottom, C? I'm getting TONS on my monitor ... and no, it's not rolled off in the slightest.
Thanks you two!
Kev-
Thanks you two!
Kev-
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K-dub
Well-known member
Well ... I sort of started to figure out what to do w/ the ending -- so I put in a vocal fade, and I'm starting to pay more attention to mix detail. Listening back w/ MM's thoughts in mind, I got a little more boost to the low end ... and fixed the staccato git ...
... and posted all the new stuff up on the top link.
Thanks for all the suggestions and assistance. I think this is turning out better than I'd hope for.
Best,
Kev-
... and posted all the new stuff up on the top link.
Thanks for all the suggestions and assistance. I think this is turning out better than I'd hope for.
Best,
Kev-