Anybody else frustrated with Nowhereradio?

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I agree with Macle....there is no universal mysterious cosmic/biological unseen force that makes a human being emote over certain sounds. One easy to see example is western versus eastern music. Hell....the 12-tone scale we use isn't even the way nature breaks down the notes. Technically, for instance C# and Db aren't even the same note. They're very close together but if you break it down mathmatically....they are two different notes which we have compromised into being one note. Actually....J.S. Bach did this when he came up with the concept of even-tempered tuning. So how can a TOTALLY man-made and created thing have deep biologic responses? They are, instead, emotional responses that are affected greatly by ones culture and personality and as such.....will vary from individual to individual.
crawdad said:
Getting back to an earlier post of Lt. Bob's, I must say--Steve--you're wrong,
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And a quick point......I'm not wrong....you just don't agree. There is a difference you know and unless your claiming that your opinion is the defining one and therefore anyone who disagrees with you is wrong, I don't really appreciate the blanket statement that I am wrong as if I don't have any knowledge of this buisiness. I'll put my experience up against yours too.
Now I'm not saying you don't have a point......but I still don't see how you can say that virtually anyone will recognise a 'wildcard'. You gave yourself and your daughter as an example.....hardly a representitive sample of the public. You, and your daughter I'm sure, have a much wider taste and appreciation for music than normal folks and you simply don't count when we're talking about the masses. And when you talk about the masses loving and buying a certain album.....I'd bet the house that we're actually talking about the masses who like that particular type of music. Like it or not......the masses that buy Hole and Perfect Circle are not gonna recognise a country hit no matter what 'cause they hate it and I garuntee....put on a country tune and they're either laughing or rolling their eyes or retching. It all depends on what you mean when you say 'the masses'. If you want to stipulate that we mean the people who like a certain type of music, then I'm on board but if you mean the whole of humanity.....then I simply don't agree and that is also based on just as many years in the biz as you have.
 
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therage! said:
Same here, cable modem at home and T1 at work. Lately I've noticed the exact same thing and there are more people arriving all the time.
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It looks as though this daemon is hosted on a machine that might be in a "server farm" or standalone that is also hosting other daemons, whatever they might be, chat programs, websites, bbs,etc... The problem usually is centered around the number of router connections that are availible. The daemon itself thats running the BBS could possibly allow up to 500 users at once, but if the routers can`t handle more than 250 connections for HR and whatever else is being hosted, then somebody has to wait until there is an open line thru the routers.
 
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Toki987 said:
It looks as though this daemon is hosted on a machine that might be in a "server farm" or standalone that is also hosting other daemons, whatever they might be, chat programs, websites, bbs,etc.
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I thought thats why we had the server change over a couple of months back because somebody else was sucking the life out of the shared server this bbs was on.....I thought this new one was supposed to be dedictaed to this BBS....
 
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Kramer said:
I thought thats why we had the server change over a couple of months back because somebody else was sucking the life out of the shared server this bbs was on.....I thought this new one was supposed to be dedictaed to this BBS....
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It could be dedicated, but in a "farm" of other machines hosting other stuff with a machine to handle the traffic off the routers. IF thats the case t,he number of calls coming into the routers, not how many are coming here would determine the load.
 
Lt. Bob--First, that statement to you that I made was tongue in cheek--thus the :D after it. Sometimes my humor doesn't translate too well to writing, but if I say you're wrong, it just means I'm making fun of my own position. As if my opinion was the only one, etc. Of course, we disagree and thats OK. I actually agree with a lot of what you say. I don't doubt your experience, talent, wisdom or anything else.

I'll buy into your genre thing, as I was actually looking at it that way. Pop for pop fans and country for country fans, etc.

Also, there WAS a study done in which a bunch of music samples--each representing a particular emotion from happiness to anger, sadness, etc, --were played to people all across the globe. All cultures were surveyed. And--all cultures responded emotionally to the emotions in the music that was played. Everybody "understood" a sad piece, or a happy piece.

I don't know what to make of that, but it does make me think that there is more going on with music than we understand. As a language, it seems like its recognized and understood even by small children.

Anyway, sorry if I offended you. I'm gonna get off this board now and go make some music...maybe that will be a better use of my time...:D
 
Didn't offend me at all my brother. I was just defending my turf.......gettin' puffed up ....you know? :D

And like most disagreements; we don't really. Not after we define our terminology. As soon as we decide to break the masses into music genres then I'm right with you. And even if we don't do that, there is probably some validity to both points of view as with most disagreements. So don't worry about anything....be happy 'cause I got your back. ;)
 
Well there's no way I'm gonna read this whole huge rant but I would like to add in my two pennies.

I love Nowhere radio, as soon as I have some more cash in my paypal account I am going to order all kinds of shit...did I hear something about T-shirts...COOL!

Everytime I give someone a link to my music they get to hear it with no problems. Everytime I go to upload a song or post a mix I do it....no problem. Everytime I download some potentially crappy music to a temp file in my docs I get to hear it a few moments later and if I like it it goes to my online music folder. Done.

I've never even seen the site down and I use it all the time. So I don't know what all the fuss is about. I don't hang out at Nowhere or the mp3 clinic to find the next pop sensation, quite the opposite. I look for music that is passionate and individual as my music and my personality is.

Thanks for being there Waldo....I hope the mouse won't eat you when he goes on the next rampage.

Fuck Mickey and Brittney, long live Waldo the king of all that is great on earth!
 
This is a pretty funny thread. You've got some people arguing about nowhere radio while other people are trying to figure out a formula for music. Just stellar. And is it just me, or is anyone else sick of seeing the word "wildcard"? :D

Here's my opinion on why people seem to like songs: Cuz they like the song. You can't create a formula for this. And if you do, remember, the definition of popular music changes like every 7 years or so. You'll need to factor that into the equation.

And I don't use Nowhere Radio much but I haven't had any problems with it. It's been down a few times in the last few weeks, but nothing major. I can streams songs just fine.
 
macle said:
Hi,
So, some people like non wildcard songs for whatever reasons (which would explain why a supposed non wildcard song could still be a hit, and still sell millions), but can a person not like a wildcard song? Cuz, it seems that you are saying that a wildcard song will appeal to all humans in some sort of uncontrollable way. The only song I can think of that is loved by all creatures of the universe is Baby Got Back.
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Thats a good question, MAcle.

Can a person not like a wildcard song? Yes. some people dont like wildcard songs.

A person might not like a song because of his dislike for the performer. Some people dont like wildcard songs because they dont like famous people. Some people block out wildcard songs because they have completely blocked out a genre. Many people dislike wildcards for many reasons.

I find that more people than not will like a wildcard though. Infact, the overwhelming majority will like a wildcard song.

As crawdad said, there is something in us that universally recognizes the music. And I disagree with hardcore that changing pop tastes affect the wildcard. Unchained melody was a hit when it came out in 67? and it was a hit again when it was rereleased in 94.
 
There is no formula. Music itself is infinite in its possibilites. The more I learn, the less I know about it. All I do know is that some music contains more magic. Why? Ask God, not me. I don't think any of us really know all there is to know about music, why it communicates, why it reaches certain people, or why a song causes one grown man to cry and another to scratch his ass. There is something going on, but its like trying to explain why grass makes you high or something. Between the physical and the mental, there is a spiritual event that happens. I don't have a clue about it...and I kind of like it that way. ;)

However, if anyone has the formula or divine answer, I'd like to read it anyway.
 
CyanJaguar said:


I find that more people than not will like a wildcard though. Infact, the overwhelming majority will like a wildcard song.
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An overwhelming majority? How do you know that? Of all the people on the planet? Even a multi million seller is a drop in the bucket. And then you factor in all the people who are liking or disliking based on their personal hangups...

Anyway, people try to quantify everything. What makes a girl pretty? Why do I like fried chicken?

Not sure what the point is, but good luck with that!
 
wild·card or wild card ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wldkärd)
n.
Games. A playing card whose value can vary as determined by its holder.
Sports. An athlete or team selected to compete in a tournament or playoff from among those who did not qualify by meeting the regular requirements.
Computer Science. A symbol that stands for one or more unspecified characters, used especially in searching text and in selecting multiple files or directories.
Slang. An unpredictable or unforeseeable factor: A surprise witness proved to be the wild card at the trial.
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Anybody else see the flaw in the 'logic'?

W.
 
I'm gonna have to agree with Cyan... (and Crawdad) :p


I think there is a kind of literal "reaction" that happens when we hear certain notes/chords/lyrics/whatever. I don't think there is a formula for it, otherwise someone would have already written an algorithm that spits out a new Top 40 hit every 5 minutes. :p I think it's just something you are "graced" with.


Yes,... music is subjective. But I think, all that means is that there are segments of the population who's "wildcard" is different than the next segment. We all "respond" to music. There has to be some kind of catalyst that garners that response. That catalyst is a "wildcard" (as Cyan calls it). I call it "it". I think a song either has "it", or doesn't. I also think that "it" can change from one person to the next.








But there are definitely songs that don't have "it", no matter who's listenin'.


:D





(I will say that there are different "levels" of music though. Some music has to be listened to intently, and studied, for any kind of appreciation to be gathered from it. That's the difference. With some music, you have to stop and look for the things that you find interesting aboot it. With other music (that has "it"), the song doesn’t wait for you to "look" for anything... it grabs you by the short hairs and says, "You're gonna LIKE me..." :D )



WATYF
 
'There is an undefinable and undetectable quality in music that makes it popular, and I can detect and define it within 30 seconds....'

bahahahaha, I'm sorry, but as someone who really gets into language, this is hilarious ;)

W.
 
wild·card or wild card ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wldkärd)
n.
Games. A playing card whose value can vary as determined by its holder.
Sports. An athlete or team selected to compete in a tournament or playoff from among those who did not qualify by meeting the regular requirements.
Computer Science. A symbol that stands for one or more unspecified characters, used especially in searching text and in selecting multiple files or directories.
Slang. An unpredictable or unforeseeable factor: A surprise witness proved to be the wild card at the trial.

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So if a wildcard is a playing card whose value can vary as determined by its holder, it follows that the wildcard holder can derive a great advantage from having a wildcard because he make it represent whatever card he wants. Example, if player needs 18 and the sum of the cards in his hand is 10, if he gets a wildcard, he can determine that the value is 8 and instantly win the game.

Its same thing as in music. The wildcard is the game winner.
 
Lol, that's obscure! You're not the one with the wildcard, the music is. You're saying you can tell what the wildcard IS.

Even if you had x-ray vision, you can only see that the card IS a wildcard, not what the person is going to call it as!

W.
 
I'm holding a suicidal jack right now, and it's a wildcard. What is it?

W.
 
NWR and Waldo have ALWAYS been good to me
I have a cable modem so I dont notice any problems
and thats all I have to say about that.
 
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