Alan Hyatt

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DJL said:
Phyl, I have some new arrows... would you like me to put on some war paint for everyone entertainment... how about it everyone, do you want me to keep trying the new leaf stuff... or say fu*K it, and really put some nails in the wood?
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Since you're already making an ass of yourself, why not go all the way?
 
Isn't this corporate spam? And isn't this completely off topic?

And aren't those the two things you flame Alan the most for?

I'm new around here and don't mean for this post to sound as harsh as it does, but I just felt compelled to point this stuff out.
 
I been thinking... if you can't beat them, you might as well join them. So now, I want to help... how can we turn HR into the new PMI Audio Group bbs forums and welcome all spam and etc?

Here, lets get started right now... hey everyone, PMI rules. See, I'm on your side now... so let's get to work and take the place over. :rolleyes:
 
Hard2Hear said:
DJL-

Are you a 15 year old kid?

Just curious.

H2H
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Every 15 year old should know PMI rules... don't you think?
 
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Hard2Hear said:
DJL-

Do you have examples of your work?

Just curious.

H2H
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Naw, but did you know PMI makes the best crap in the whole world?
 
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Han said:
Marik and all

"Our mics are every bit as good or better at a fraction of the cost you would pay for a world class German microphone. No, we are not a German mic, but we sure do sound like those $3,000.00 models".

It may be even right, but the tone of such a statement is something where I have some problems.

I am very happy with a company such as Alan's, I wish they'd been there twenty years ago. Mics like the B1/B3 and T3 are wonderful mics, no doubt. I prefer a T3 over a TLM103 anytime.
But Alan is a very passionate guy and sometimes he reacts very heavy and though I can understand why, I don't know what to think about it.

Klaus' forum was mentioned here, go there and see how the heavyweights go along with eachother, guys like David Satz, Oliver Archut, Tony Merrill, David Josephson, Ross Hogarth and Klaus Heyne himself have a respectful and very high level discussion about mics, where guys like you and me can learn a lot.
http://recforums.prosoundweb.com/in.../20/1221/?SQ=96ca6b32dee083c8938a6ed4769e3d1a

Peace, Han
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Han,

Do you really think I would step into all this shit if I did not know that Alan is so passionate about his microphones, if he did not stand behind his products 100%, and if he just did not make good microphones?

His claims on his site are supported by many real pros, and besides, it is marketing and I don't have any problems with that. In our era of marketing I stopped looking at adds long ago--products should speak for themselves. Just go to AKG website and read about C12VR or 451 reissues. I've never seen such a BS. That is the REAL MISLEADING.
Ha, on the other hand can you imagine AKG writing something like: "Hey guys C12VR is not really up to vintage C12 standards and although it is not a bad mic, compared to C12 it actually sucks..... at fruction of cost".

I am with you however, with the last part of your meassage. Why guys on Klause's forum respect each other and follow professional ethics?--because they probably know something and do not need to support their ego. There is much to learn here and not only about microphones, but also about ethics, respect, and all these things.


>Unfortunately, I read in another forum from at least two very well known mic re-builders and one very,very famous producer/mic user that Stephen Paul's modified mics don't last and need to be done again. They tend to get more of them as time marches on. The owners of these modified mics ask to have the original capsule put back in. Don't flame me, I only read this from reputable sources. I have no opinion on this as I don't own a SP modified mic.<

Acorec,

I assume you are referring to Klaus' forum. You conviniently however, drop the second part of that discussion--part starting with Tony Merill response. Anyway, why Stephen Paul came up here? Or are you looking where else to throw durt?

>These mics may be poorly designed, but all the studios in the world use them to record. Right, wrong or indifferent, the mics are used all the time on thousands of pro recordings and I don't see many pros that debate the design of the high end mics. Pros are busy recording and not on the BBSs slagging the latest mic-of-the-week. I own many high end mics and never had a problem with any of them.<

Once again, you conviniently drop the fact that many pros have, use, and like SP, as well as their Neumann's.


>but maybe mic sells are down and PMI can't afford it... plus they can spam here for free. Have you noticed, ever since RO shut down the PMI Audio Group's forum for not paying their bill all the SP freaks are crawing all over HR...<

DJL,

Wasn't it you saying how you hate misleading info? Or you hate it from others only, and it is OK when it comes from you? Everybody here knows your low- down tricks. If you want some credibility please answer a few questions. Please don't include your ridiculous assumtions:

1) Tell us exactly what happened between Alan and RO?--no assumptions, just facts.
2) Tell us how do you know that mic sales are down and PMI can't afford to pay for that forum.
3) Since closing RO forum I did not see anything from Alan, but some wonderful discussions, including this about Soundfield mics. Show us at least one instance of spamming since RO forum closing, please.

And frankly, I think this is none of your business to tell Alan (or anybody else) where to go hangout and where to open forum. This is a free country and anybody can post as much as they want (including you).
 
I don't know and I don't even care... all that matters now is that we let everone know that PMI rules and that HR is no longer a spam free bbs.

http://www.pmiaudio.com
 
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DJL said:
I don't know and I don't even care... all that matters now is that we let everone know that PMI rules and that HR is no longer a spam free bbs... right?
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Hope you understand that this message just once again proves you as a MASTER of low-down tricks.
You are who you are, DJL.
 
alanhyatt said:
I am probably about to offend a few people here with a fairly long post, and I do not mean this about everyone, so to those supporters, please understand you all know what people I am directing this at, but in either case, here goes a five page war.

There are a few sarcastic opinions regarding a page on our web site, and another statement by someone who seems to be accusing us of false advertising. To those who enjoy being critical of PMI, let me remind you this is Home Recording, and what you offer is your opinion, as we all offer here, but your opinion is not fact, only what you think. My opinion may not be fact as well. This is fine by me, but there are more out there that agree with us than the few of you who don’t, however they are pros and you are, well…best I don't go there.

Some of you look for things to find so you can blow them out of proportion based on your opinions, while poking fun of what we say or do. If this is what you wish to do, fine, it is a free country…but many Grammy winning producers, engineers, and well known artists keep using Studio Projects microphones on their albums. Do they know something you don’t?

Tony Sheridan was the lead singer for Santana for 13 years, he preferred the T3 over the N company. In fact, he said the T3 was the best mic he had ever used for his voice, and on his latest CD project, he is using the T3. Simple Plan, and 3 doors down are very popular bands. Jeff Stinco from Simple Plan loved the mics and uses them all the time. Three Doors down just did a new video that features our mics. Chris Henderson went out of his way to use them on that video because he loves the mics on their recordings. James Taylor recently bought three C1's from Morgan at East Coast Music Mall, but we could not get a comment from him other than what the dealers said, which was James was very impressed. The list is quite long... These are just some of the latest, and the rest is on our web site. Perhaps you guys would care to post that link and discredit them as well.

Based on your opinions, you have to wonder why these professional users continue to use Studio Projects microphones. Shouldn’t they listen to your opinions? You seem to be the pros around here and go out of your way to make sure everyone else here sees your opinions, so why not these professional guys. I am sure they would love to hear from you.

Studio Projects are not the only microphones these artists use, but none the less, they are used on lead vocals, grand piano, drums, guitar, bass, dobro, and many more applications. Perhaps they should seek you're advice on what mikes to use and how to make records. Maybe if they listen to you, they will go as far in this industry as you have. I do not dispute you’re right to your opinion, but do not diminish theirs and others. I think they are the pros…Not You! Not that that matters, but don’t think you know it all and that your opinion is better than theirs.

Want more? Julian King, the lead engineer at Oceanway Nashville uses C1's for their Grand Piano tracks exclusively, as well as using C4’s on acoustic instruments that include guitar, dobro and others, and the T3 on many vocal tracks. He says Oceanway has the mic locker from hell, but he chooses the Studio Projects for many tracks because they sound as good as anything they have. Tools is what they are folks…nothing more. Now, why don't you look up his name in Google and find out his credits. Then find out how many Grammy's he has won, and then come back to this group and tell them. While you’re at it, tell the group how many credits you have and how many Grammy's you have won. Get my point yet…I doubt it!

Since you don’t, look up under Google search the name Steve Nathan. Steve is the hottest session player for keyboards in the world. Have a look at his credits. Steve does not agree with sdelsolray and bleyrad’s comments, but then sdelsolray and bleyrad along with a few others here at RO seem to know more than Steve Nathan does, so I guess you guys are the hottest session players in the world.

All these top professionals seem to think our mikes are every bit as good a tool as many German mics, but it is still ok that you don't. Steve Nathan just said this; “I must be sounding like a broken record by now, but I just can't get over how good those C-1s sound. Julian put one on Paul Franklin's dobro today. The presence and clarity was astounding. Paul swore that it was the best his dobro has sounded, "ever", and he's been the top guy in that chair for a very long time. Then there is Scott Rouse, another multi Grammy winner. He just told us about another Grammy nomination. He said, “Looks like we got a Grammy nod with those mics you loaned me."Christmas On The Mountain" is the album. It’s nominated for Bluegrass Album of the Year. To him we say..Good luck, I hope you win.

I realize this is Home Recording. You and a few others here like to have your fun, but I think you have nothing better to do with your time, so you criticize our products, or try to make fun of us. Well ok, that's fine if that is what you wish to do, but maybe you should try to learn how to use your mouthy talents for something else because I am just as tired of listening to you as perhaps you are of me. Microphones are tools. They all sound different. We never said we were an exact cloan of anything. We said our tools sound as good as any German tools…yes we mean microphones. SP works better than Neumann in many applications, and vice-versa.

The difference is clear, opinons are are just like, well you know...everyone has one. :eek:

In the end, the only outcome of this post will be more trash from you and the other few trashers here that are bent to try and discredit us. So get over it already. We stand behind our products as well or better than anyone else. If you don’t like them, don’t use them. All I can say is I am happy the professional community “is” using them.

The comments on our web site are not false, and not out of line, but I think you are :)
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Alan Hyatt
PMI Audio Group
Studio Projects Joemeek Toft Audio
www.pmiaudio.com
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PMI makes the best crap in the world...check it out.

http://www.pmiaudio.com
 
Posted by DJL 7/31/04
DJL said:
The new DJL

Ok, I'm back for a quick comment... please put and end to all this crap on the mic forum. I'm not going to waste my time defending my opinions, comments, and etc... nor have I, or will I post on this forum using any other handle other than DJL. I have put a handfull of people on my ignore list for the sole reason of avoiding conflicts. I will stick to facts (and back them up with proof) and if and when I disagree I'll try to do it in a professional manner, and I suggest you all do the same.

IMO, it's time for everyone on this mic forum to put their focus on talking about mics and not all this BS... and then those who just want post flames and try to discredit others will have too find another place to play....
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Posted by DJL in this thread 8/6/04
DJL said:
...Anyway, I've had my say about this thread... and I'm done with this thread and going back to talking about mics.
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Glad to see you're a man of your word. :)
 
OK, I give up. How do you use the ignore function. I've really got to get that working.

Thanks
 
I think it's under your profile settings... options, or something like that... anyway, you'll find it easy enough. Later... lol.
 
I bought a Toft atc-2 and had trouble ( so I thought ) with one side having more gain than the other. PMI checked, upgraded and ran a battery of tests on my pre. They charged me nothing, even after they figured out the pre was fine . My patch bay had a short and it was drainig a bit.
PMI does indeed rock and DJL, you are still an ass (even though you do give good advice sometimes, and I think you're kinda funny)
 
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