akg C 1000 AS DRUM OVERHEADS.

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would akg c1000 mikes be any good as drum overheads as i can borrow a pair, if so do i need to be aware of any particular frequencies to cut/ boost with these mikes.
 
My experience with the c1000's as overheads has been good. Although be carefull with someof the higher frequencies. I can't really give any figures as such.

Why not borrow the pair regardless, record with them, and then report back your findings?

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Rochey
 
I've used them as overheads many times and they'll do an OK job there. The top end on this mic is a little harsh so watch out boosting high end EQ. I much prefer these as tom mics and use them for that application all the time.
 
some tips,

C1000s' match well to a darker pre-amp, with EQ off (if EQ is available). I will usually have the lo-cut on (if available). I nearly always use mine with the hyper-cardioid capsule, it changes the high frequency curve quite dramatically. It tames that "harshness" everyone bitches about. It also focuses the pattern more with the hyper-cardioid capsule. You get a little more 180 with that particular capsule, but with proper placement it isn't a problem IME. Unfortunately, If your drum room sucks, none of this info will help much.:)


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I've always been told the oktavas were a better choice than the c1000s. At the studio I track drums at, we use c1000s (and used to use the oktavas) In our case the c1000 were a MUCH MUCH better. BUT it's a very bad drum room, acoustically. So if you have a shitty room, try them! If you have a nice room, stay away?
 
Yeah, same experience as executivos. I don't mic drums that often but the Oktava 012's don't work as well as C1000s' as overheads for me. It seems quite strange. At least I found something the c1000s can do.
 
I use them for overhead. They seem to sound a little better when run from Phantom power then battery.

The track in the link was made with 2 C1000 overhead and a ATM Pro25 on kick. C1000 running from internal 9v.

 
I've used them as overheads with the hyper-cardioid capsule. They work fine. Especially since you're borrowing them, go right ahead! :)

They do sound a tad better with phantom power, though. Not much, really, but why not use it if you can?

Enjoy,
Chris
 
I've never used the c1000's but i use the oktava mc-012s and they work great. I couldnt think of using anything else after these have been such faithful partners
 
My advice was going to be if you have ANY other options for a small diaphragm concensor, try them - as you will probably find anything better than the metallic edgy sound you get from the C1000. It could well be my least favorite mic ever made, except for the Oktava large diaphragm (original version before they redesigned the enclosure).

But apparently, there are some big fans of the C1000 here. That is very good, because it means that if you end up hating it as much as I do, you may be able to find a suc... I mean buyer. :D
 
so do you really think they sound "metallic" or did you read that somewhere on here and now just repeat it? I just ask because it's funny....thats the adjective that I've always heard used only on this bbs.
 
Executivos said:
so do you really think they sound "metallic" or did you read that somewhere on here and now just repeat it? I just ask because it's funny....thats the adjective that I've always heard used only on this bbs.

Umm... I guess I'll assume that question is directed at me. Sorry, I can't honestly admit to being influenced one way or another by the prevailing wisdom of this bbs, because I'm a brand new member... just found it two days ago.

I bought a C1000 sometime in the early 90's I think, when i was first trying to put together a mic collection for my first studio. Unlike today, back then choices were very limited in affordable mics. For instance, if you wanted a large diaphragm mic for less than $1000, you had a big selection: one. The 414B/uls. Actually, that's not right, CAD had something too. For a couple hundred more you could maybe get into a TLM193. But that's about it.

So yeah, I bought one, and still have it lying around. Haven't used it in years - back when I did use it, it would usually end up on a HH, and then, as often as not, I wouldn't use the HH track in the mix anyway. I even sent it back once to AKG to be checked out - they said it was "perfect".

If you'll notice my comment about being one of my least favorite mics ever made, along with the Oktava large diaphragm, yeah... I'll admit i bought one of those too when Guitar Center was practically giving them away. My Oktava sounds like it was dunked a few times in a bucket of snot. And if that is also repeating a common sentiment around here, I guess I'm just not a very original thinker.
 
I'm not trying to say that they are the greatest mic ever....at all. It's just everyone on this bbs who doesn't like them usually says they are metallic. As I mentioned, my experience is that in a bad acoustic environment they seemed to work well. Somewhat of a 2 wrongs make a right?
 

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