About Steinberg Nuendo 2.0

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NL5 said:
I kinda thought his username was a tongue-in-cheek joke, and now think the whole post is a joke.
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D'oh! Nice catch. I was pronouncing the username wrong. A drawback to being from Ill-inois, maybe :).

Yeah, definitely a troll. The triple Waves bundle mention right after you mentioned it, should have been even more of a giveaway.

Not sure which is worse, a software thief or a bandwidth thief.

G.
 
cusebassman said:
Just starting out with a full software package you might find in a professional studio is ridiculous - it is going to take you far longer to learn the same skills with all that extra stuff in your face, than it would have had you started out simple - decent mic, interface, and simple software (Reaper, for instance :D)
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yeah or a tascam 4 track cassette recorder and an sm57
(how i started)

there is no substituting seemingly infinite features and the paralyzing effect those features have on your creative ability, for the simplicity of: put mic on stand, aim at source, plug mic into 4 track. Hit record and play.
 
heh well yea, that's where I started (even lower than that, actually). But these days, most people have a computer, so the "bare bones" for them is the interface and a mic that would have destroyed my Radio Shacks in a comparison at the time I was working with those technologies.

So in short, we should all feel spoiled and honored to have such capability at our fingertips... and not overexpose ourselves to all that a piece of software has to offer at once.

Install a multitrack recording software suite, plug in your interface, and plug in a mic. If you can't get a decent (albeit somewhat raw) sound from that, there's something else wrong.
 
pay very close attention you gay assh**** I 'm a Rapper not a producer , and I came across some money and bought the best program , a decent mic, and my pre amp( which I didnt know would alter the imput to my cpu)
I like nuendo cause I can do viedo and audio so I dont give two fucks about reaper or any other program cause I'm still learning nuendo so why would I change my program......?????????

if you audio fags can give me a list of great sounding preamps other than neve, (or sumthing similar ) that would be great thanxs!!!!!!!! ( :
 
illsteele said:
if you audio fags can give me a list of great sounding preamps other than neve, (or sumthing similar ) that would be great thanxs!!!!!!!! ( :
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He he, yeah, we been had! Very funny, fooled me at first.
 
illsteele said:
pay very close attention you gay assh**** I 'm a Rapper not a producer , and I came across some money and bought the best program , a decent mic, and my pre amp( which I didnt know would alter the imput to my cpu)
I like nuendo cause I can do viedo and audio so I dont give two fucks about reaper or any other program cause I'm still learning nuendo so why would I change my program......?????????

if you audio fags can give me a list of great sounding preamps other than neve, (or sumthing similar ) that would be great thanxs!!!!!!!! ( :
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I think its funny that you still want our help, even though you referred to us all as "audio fags"... if recording hobbyists are fags, apparently you're gay too - its hard to produce a rap video without any sound. huh.

As for the preamp recommendations, you never actually answered any of the questions necessary to get a legitimate response. If you are running the output of your preamp into the line-in on your Soundblaster, even a Neumann through a Neve/Avalon pre is going to be a noisy piece of shit.

If you're going through a halfway decent interface, then the following advice is useful:

It depends on how much more money you "come across".

The standard workhorse on the cheap end is the MAudio DMP-3 (170). A step up would be the Grace 101 or the True Systems P-Solo(500-600). Then above that is a single channel Avalon for 1500, or its dual channel brother for 3k.

There are channel strips, but I couldn't tell ya - since you have nuendo, you probably don't need external EQ and compression anyway.

Now, if you don't have some sort of decent converter or interface, you should start there. I'd suggest searching the forum instead of asking the same three questions every computer newb before you has asked about interfaces.
 
illsteele said:
pay very close attention you gay assh**** I 'm a Rapper not a producer , and I came across some money and bought the best program , a decent mic, and my pre amp( which I didnt know would alter the imput to my cpu)
I like nuendo cause I can do viedo and audio so I dont give two fucks about reaper or any other program cause I'm still learning nuendo so why would I change my program......?????????

if you audio fags can give me a list of great sounding preamps other than neve, (or sumthing similar ) that would be great thanxs!!!!!!!! ( :
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you're abusive and insane: but here's a short list....

ART
Avalon
Chandler
Groove Tubes
Groove Tubes
John Hardy
Neve
SeventhCircleAudio
Summit
VacRac
API
Crane
Great River
presonus
Brent Averill
Buzz Audio
Purple
etc

Actually.....why don't you get yourself a Sweetwater catalog (they're free) and go to the mic pre section and read up.
 
brendandwyer said:
you're abusive and insane
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Yea, that's about the gist of it.

brendandwyer said:
Actually.....why don't you get yourself a Sweetwater catalog (they're free) and go to the mic pre section and read up.
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Are you trying to say that he should actually do some research - see now that's just crazy talk. Hell, this whole fight could've been avoided had some research been done into decent mics, preamps and interfaces.
 
Ah, see, after searching all posts by illsteele, I found he is using an M-Audio Mobile Pre.

Definitely the breakdown in your chain, as far as I can tell. The mic should get you decent results. The room apparently sucks, so I would also look there to come up with something. Perhaps constructing the equivalent of a reflexion setup, where the space a foot or so behind the microphone is surrounded by absorbant material, to stop the reflections of your voice from getting to the walls. Untreated room reverb sounds like crap, most of the time.

So, I'd suggest you upgrade your interface, instead of buying a standalone preamp, and look into something for the removal of shitty reverb. Even if its simply setting up two mic stands and hanging moving blankets on em, and placing yourself facing them, with the mic between you.

The Presonus Firebox has decent preamps that would probably suffice for the vocals. If you want to get expensive, you can buy a separate preamp and set of converters, and go that route.
 
I can't believe anyone's still trying to help this bag of shit.

You guys are gluttons for punishment.
 
You came into some money, so you searched the world for the last copy of an outdated version of Nuendo? N3 has been out for at least 2 years...maybe 3.
 
Farview said:
You came into some money, so you searched the world for the last copy of an outdated version of Nuendo? N3 has been out for at least 2 years...maybe 3.
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No one said this guy didn't still sound suspect on the legit software front. He just so happened to "come upon" some money, which was probably in a register at a business or bank, being shovelled by the fistfuls into a bag by a cashier with a gun pointed at them :eek:

But who knows, that might just be the rap persona - half those guys probably never even killed someone before. Poserz :p

Me - I'm just a folkee guy with a guitar... I don't need to pretend like Im on the verge of killin someone all the time, slappin my women and wearin lots of jewelry. I mostly sing about travelling and lost love. Its a nice, calm pasttime - might not get me the bling so much, but I'll deal :)
 
is a new preamp gonna make that much difference for hip hop vocals? i mean, I was under the impression that better pres will shine more when you stack tracks (like a whole band) but less so when you only have a couple tracks, especially if its vox only...

and if the preamp (say a GT Brick in this case) does indeed sound better, is a novice engineer gonna be able to hear the improvement on crappy monitors in a space with crappy acoustics??
 
illsteele said:
pay very close attention you gay assh**** I 'm a Rapper not a producer , and I came across some money and bought the best program , a decent mic, and my pre amp( which I didnt know would alter the imput to my cpu)
I like nuendo cause I can do viedo and audio so I dont give two fucks about reaper or any other program cause I'm still learning nuendo so why would I change my program......?????????

if you audio fags can give me a list of great sounding preamps other than neve, (or sumthing similar ) that would be great thanxs!!!!!!!! ( :
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If you really spent $6000 on software and $500 on your mic, pre, and converter, I would go back to the store that raped you and demand a refund.

Also, while I think waves plugs are a total rippoff, they shouldn't make your vocals sound "compterized" in any way, shape, or form.

I would get your money back and buy a Gefell UM92, a Fearn VT1, and some Uad plugins. Way more bang for your buck, plus it will hold its value, unlike your $6000 software package.
 
Hi_Flyer said:
is a new preamp gonna make that much difference for hip hop vocals? i mean, I was under the impression that better pres will shine more when you stack tracks (like a whole band) but less so when you only have a couple tracks, especially if its vox only...
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Better pres generally do stack better, but when you're talking something as shitty as a MobilePre, something that costs a couple hundred+ by itself is going to make an audible difference, as far as I'm concerned (and as has been my experience).

Hi_Flyer said:
and if the preamp (say a GT Brick in this case) does indeed sound better, is a novice engineer gonna be able to hear the improvement on crappy monitors in a space with crappy acoustics??
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hehe probably not. Although he does have an impressive lot of software, so he must be a professional :p I tihnk even in a relatively poor environment you would hear a difference, even still (at least between the two pre's you and I have mentioned, respectively.

Now, if he buys an Avalon and a Groove Tubes Pre that run roughly the same cost, yea, the difference will be unintelligible in a room you can't step into because sound waves have taken up all the standing room :D
 
cusebassman said:
Me - I'm just a folkee guy with a guitar... I don't need to pretend like Im on the verge of killin someone all the time, slappin my women and wearin lots of jewelry. I mostly sing about travelling and lost love. Its a nice, calm pasttime - might not get me the bling so much, but I'll deal :)
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pussy...:)
 
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