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darrin_h2000 said:
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christiaan
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For $200 you can get a Joemeek M3Q pre.
A good pre and it will give you tonal flexibility that your computer eqs and compressors won't offer.
A good pre and it will give you tonal flexibility that your computer eqs and compressors won't offer.
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shagfu
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I had the blue tube. Neat little unit. A bit dark sounding. I was looking for something more "accurate" or with some sparkle/clarity as my acoustic is pretty dark sounding as it is. So I returned it for an Audio Buddy. I'm happy with the audio buddy. I'd like to jump up a tier to the better quality M-Audio pre after awhile.
In my short little experience with low cost pre's, they can have a world of or subtle differences. I had a soundcard with a built-in phantom powered mic pre. Noisy as hell and not very inspiring (though usable I guess). The little Behr' Eurorack was clean but the unit itself was hella noisy too. As I mentioned, the blue tube is a little dark sounding to me. Others might describe it as warm, others as muddy. A single track recorded with the blue tube may sound great, but once you add other tracks, the muddiness may proof to be problematic (well, in my case at least). I went with the Buddy because of the clarity, and I find it rather sweet sounding, not at all tinny or sharp.
In my short little experience with low cost pre's, they can have a world of or subtle differences. I had a soundcard with a built-in phantom powered mic pre. Noisy as hell and not very inspiring (though usable I guess). The little Behr' Eurorack was clean but the unit itself was hella noisy too. As I mentioned, the blue tube is a little dark sounding to me. Others might describe it as warm, others as muddy. A single track recorded with the blue tube may sound great, but once you add other tracks, the muddiness may proof to be problematic (well, in my case at least). I went with the Buddy because of the clarity, and I find it rather sweet sounding, not at all tinny or sharp.
Scriabin
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Exactly my thoughts...heylow said:
on a side note... I'm curious, why do you need a tube pre? There are many solid state pres that sound more "tubey" than some "tube" preamps. I've heard a few tube mics that sounded more like straight wire with gain than their solid state counterparts.
Don't discount solidstate pres simply because your buying into the hype that tube=best.
Although, I've got a great tube mic stand that might help warm up your recordings, let me know and I'll make ya a great deal
darrin_h2000
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A strait wire with gain? I allways wondered why anyone would want to have vocals go through a pre like that. I have such a pre and It comes in handy for recording on 8 tracks at a time and even sounds a world better than the dmp3 samples posted here. but you want color on your vocals and a direct in for bass because face it you need a huge room with a huge cab to get a bass sound as good a going direct sound.
I have yet to really like the sound of that dmp3 with vocals, at least the blue tube colors them so they sound interesting.
I have yet to really like the sound of that dmp3 with vocals, at least the blue tube colors them so they sound interesting.
regebro
Insane Genious!
Well, you might want to *choose* the color. And unless you want to buy twenty preamps to choose from, you will get more flexibility by adding some color with EQ. And then you don't want to have to compensate for the preamps color.
I totally agree. As a firsta basic preamp, you want a two channel preamp that colors as little as possible. Sure, a preamp that colors things just right will make your bass or vocals sound better. But if it colors things wrongly? Well, then it will just sound worse....
I totally agree. As a firsta basic preamp, you want a two channel preamp that colors as little as possible. Sure, a preamp that colors things just right will make your bass or vocals sound better. But if it colors things wrongly? Well, then it will just sound worse....
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Richard Monroe
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I'm with Christaan- Seriously consider the Joemeek MQ3.-Richie
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chessrock
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regebro said:
A neutral pre will reveal the color that the mic naturally imparts.
