A boring song

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TripleM said:
I promised myself I'd never do this... I'd never write another song about a worn out topic. So stupid me figured that what the world needed was one more suicide song.
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songs about suicide can never be worn out.. just like love songs.. as long as people are falling in love and commiting suicide, there will always be plenty to write about..


o.k. this is probably one of the best recordings I've heard from you.. still not great, but good.. nice backing vocals.. they sound great.. bass is a bit boomy.. guitar sounds a hair out of tune.. there's always something about your mixes that lack clarity for some reason.. also, I have problems understanding some of the lyrics, and it might be because of the layers.. harmonies and everything are great, but singing the same voice 3 times might not always be cool.. I don't know.. the harmonies are excellent.. I really think it would have more impact if you cut it down to the 3 minute mark.. remember 'volthauses' comments on your last tune? he brought up good production ideas.. maybe a hair more volume on the drums too, not the cymbals.. good song, nice vocal harmonies, and as always, good lyrics..
 
...hey trip,
Im on my way outta dodge to visit some family up north for the weekend. I'll hit this on monday when i get back....


bumpty bump for now....
 
Boy, that was pretty boring.

Nah, I'm just kidding.

Man, you don't do sad very well, do you. Beautiful song though. And it sounds really good too. That change around 2:40 is great. The lyrics are expressive too.

It's interesting, because your vocals seem to have a sort of "sonic halo" around them as they move through the mix. They don't sound at all like they're in the same room as the instruments, but yet to me they work interestingly well.

I'm going to obstain from mix critiques as I'm sure they've been covered sufficiently and I just enjoyed the tune.

Good music, Trip.
 
TripleM

I really liked the tune! I was a very up-beat suicide track! I have a couple in my catalog and mine are all the dirge type renditions that normally come to mind.

I love the retro sheen or lack there-of that this mix presents. It has a dated or slightly washed out sound to it and yet, at the same time, everything is clear and understandable except for the words which I had trouble concentrating on because the music was so happy.

There does seem to be a number phase issues in many of the parts and perhaps some of this is just due to a bad transfer to mp3. Almost like a cassette that was recorded on one machine but played back on another with a different azimuth alignment if you know what I mean?

Was this an analog master at one point? If so, go back and align the heads to minimize the phase and I think a good deal of clarity will pop through in this mix. If there was no analog processing involved, then I am at a loss to explain or help you further with this mix. Sorry.

Otherwise, a very good tune and matching mix effort to present it.

Cheers! :)
 
Man...I gotta tell ya.

You are one of my favorite artists.
Not just from this site, but period.

I would kill to record with you. I think we could put together something awesome. But you'd have to sing. ;)

Oh...The song...

An upbeat suicide song...Seems easier to get the words out this way as opposed to writing a dirge or something.
Sorry to hear about the loss of your friend that way.
I have lost 3 via that stupid route.

Your stuff is basically non-critiqueable to me.
It's basically bulletproof.

You have such a signature sound down pat that I would never mess with it, MMM.

Except...

You need a Drummer from Detroit to come out there, mic up his 1962 Slingerland Krupa kit, and let him play drums on these kind of pop tunes like he has for the last 30 years. (Pathetic hint).


The rythym guitar chord changes are fantastic.

Enough of my butt-kissing.

You are the whip.


VI
 
B.SABBATH said:
songs about suicide can never be worn out.. just like love songs.. as long as people are falling in love and commiting suicide, there will always be plenty to write about..





good song, nice vocal harmonies, and as always, good lyrics..
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joro*quotes*Sam...........

yup...good song man....
Putting a unique spin on the song... as you have done here is really cool...I dug the retro feel of the tune man...go-go's kind of tune....great recording...

who's singing?

Cool song man,
Joe
 
smelly - I agree totally that the mix is slightly undefined. That's a good way to put it - not VERY UNDEFINED, just slightly. I think the vox are the biggest culprit. To a lesser extent, I think the clean guitar is as well. I have some different tracking things to try next time out. The drums are poor - I agree with you there too. Not sure I agree with the muddy bass sound. It's on the big side, but I thought it was still short of muddy. Could be a difference in playback systems. Of course I totally agree with all of your compliments :D:D:D. Seriously, thank you. P.S., yeah the chord progression and cadence in spots is very similar to "what i like..."

B.SAB Not great, but good. I think that assessment is right on target. I tracked the vox with an EQ cut at 2400hz. Next time out, I'm going to track them flat. I had a real hard time getting vocal definition without getting vocal harshness. I'm guessing that's why you were having probs with some of the lyrics. It's possible it's the layers, but my first guess is the EQ. Try paying attention to that on my next one and we'll see what you think. I can't remember volthauses comments from last time. I wish I did. You've chided me about running time before. I can't find anything I want to cut. You're probably right though.

SLuiCe - thanks for the listen. I do sad like you do happy. :D:D:D

Ghost - thanks man. Were the phase issues at any particular spot, or all the way through? I didn't catch any.

VI - hey man, waddaya say to that? I tried PMing you yesterday but your in box was full. If you want to collab on something let me know. If you want to put down drum tracks on this or any song of mine, speak up. Let me know what you need. I wouldn't mind taking a shot at backing vox on 'You Make Me Sick." If you ever visit your brother and are in town, try to connect with me. It's be cool to jam. I think I'm about 45 minutes to an hour away from him.

joro - glad you liked the song. The happy/sad thing was unintentional. When I play it on an acoustic, it sounds much sadder. That's me singing - lead and harmonies.
 
SLuiCe said:
...your vocals seem to have a sort of "sonic halo" around them as they move through the mix.
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errrr....smoke another one Tom. I meant to say "hue." :) It was late....sorry.
 
Welcome to the good drum sound... er... place... (or something)...

Much better than your other stuff (drum-wise) so far...

There's something eerily "The Wonder Years" crossed with "The Brady Bunch" about your stuff... I like it! This is the kind of stuff that came out on 45 with a faded orange flower covering the label

It has a nice drive to it... the vocals do kind of seem to sink back into the mix a bit... maybe a preference... the 1k octave has more bass guitar in it than voice... good balance -- it creates that "Fred Savage" vibe... if you can live with "retro"...

My ears almost crave something hardpanned... something overdubbed... to each side... something to balance the soundstage... most everything is sitting in the middle third....

Whoa... excellent bridge... 2:42?? Unusual from you... very nice of you to go somewhere different in your songs... soon, you'll be writing 11/4 G-Flat Locrian heavy-metal á là Tool/Gagne... probably some song about hating your pajamas, or something :) :eek: :D

Good job... very nice song... you have a distinct style... I've always thought that, but haven't seen it mentioned much in your threads... it bears writing.


C
 
I wish I was there to break your balls

I read none of the other comments so sorry if I repeat anything of others. Good pop tune really. Reminded me of 60's British stuff, like the Hollies, etc. The release was good and not forced for the sake of a release. Harmonies weren't perfect but thats what gave the song its 60's pop feel. "I wish I was there to break your balls" was that what you said? Kinda funny. Thanks for posting.
 
sorry for the late bump, but I was away for the weekend...

participant - thanks for the listen. Wonder Years meets Brady Bunch. Yeah I suppose that's a cool combo. The vocals weren't supposed to be back. I just had troubles trying to get them any more forward. The drums were mostly the same kind of thing I've done in the past. The only thing different is I put "ghost hits" on the snare track. That seemed to help fatten it up a smidge.

smellephant - no, it was a much less interesting line: "...break your fall." If I ever retrack maybe I'll stick that in there. Thanks.
 
Hey Trip,
Classic TripM. Youre gonna have a real cohesive CD when you get all of your material together. ...you seem to have a very focused direction.
Im listening on the puter here at work, so.....:rolleyes: you know how that goes.. ...but from here, 2 nits. I would like to hear the lead voc upfront more, so that it stands away from the bg vocs. ...and the bass/low end seems just a touch mushy.

Nice writing and lyrics bro,g
 
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