100000$ sound studio startup!

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$100000 budget studio thesis :)
hey

i gotta do a thesis for my college.
we've been "give" $100000 thats rite 1 lakh and 20x20ft room.
I have to design a music recording and mixdown facility comprising of one recording room and one control room.
I have to design the layout of studio, show how the studio is treatred acoustically and budgeting involved in purchase of equipment.
The project must have a step-by-step description of how the studio wud be setup.

Ofcourse I have to give the price of each and every material used and all shud fit in the budget!

Im at total loss about the acoustic part of the setup. For the equipment I was thinking of a o2r, some good compressor/gates, Tascam ADATs, Normal Tape recorders, some good effect processors, 2 good synths, 2 DAWs with protools and cubase setup, a good neutrik patchbay, a pair of tannoys,hmm watelse...please suggest!

Also help me with reading material on step=by-step studio setup..

I understand about having sound absorbant material with max absorption co-eff., importance of diffusers. But where to get the price range and stuf.

one more thing
how much budget shud i set aside for contruction and acoustics?
 
Oh yeah...
I forgot to mention, cross posting the same question in different forums is generally frowned upon...
 
if you're married....half of the budget is going to your wife...

she only let you spend $50.000 on goodies if you buy here goodies she likes for the equal amount

:mad:
 
gamebhai....

This'll get you started. You'll have to remove a few items. :cool:

Qty / Item / Description / Price / Ext Price

A PRO TOOLS

1 Power Mac G5 Dual 2GHZ 512MB ram $2,999.00 $2,999.00
1 1GIG Ram DDR upgrade $250.00 $250.00
2 Apple 23" Cinema HD Display $1,999.00 $3,998.00
1 Argosy 90-PC32-RRG console $3,190.00 $3,190.00
1 Digidesign Control console $11,995.00 $11,995.00
5 Digidesign Fader Pack $6,495.00 $32,475.00
1 Digidesign Pro Tools HD3 System $10,495.00 $10,495.00
4 Digidesign 192 I/O interfaces $3,400.00 $13,600.00
1 Digidesign SCSI 64 w SCSI $545.00 $545.00
1 Pro Tools 13 Slot Expansion Chassis $1,800.00 $1,800.00
1 Digidesign Digidrive 36GB 10K RPM $990.00 $990.00
1 Digidesign digidrive 72GB 10K RPM $1,450.00 $1,450.00
1 Digidrive Rackmount Kit $93.00 $93.00
1 192 AD Card $1,295.00 $1,295.00
1 192 DA Card $1,195.00 $1,195.00
1 192 digital card $995.00 $995.00
1 Digidesign Midi I/O $550.00 $550.00
1 Digidesign Sync I/O $1,850.00 $1,850.00
1 Digidesign Pre $2,200.00 $2,200.00
1 Waves Plat TDM bundle $3,200.00 $3,200.00
1 Antares Autotune TDM $475.00 $475.00
1 Massive Pack Plug in Bundle $1,195.00 $1,195.00
2 Control Digi snake kit $599.00 $1,198.00
7 Digisnake DB25 to TRS $90.00 $630.00

Subtotal A $98,663.00


B MONITORING

2 Genelec 1032A sing 10" 2-way monitors $2,200.00 $4,400.00
2 Genelec 1039A dual 15" 3-way monitors $6,710.00 $13,420.00
1 Genelec 7073A quad 15" subwoofer $5,974.00 $5,974.00
5 Mackie HR-824 sing 8" 2-way monitors $565.00 $2,825.00
2 Yamaha NS10 sing 5.25" 2-way monitors $150.00 $300.00
1 Hafler P1500 power amplifier $450.00 $450.00

Subtotal B $27,369.00


C HARDWARE

2 Avalon VT737sp Mic/Pre/Comp $1,900.00 $3,800.00
1 DBX 120 A/XP Sub-Harmonic $299.00 $299.00
2 Universal Audio 6176 mic pre/comp/limtr/eq $2,195.00 $4,390.00
2 Universal Audio 1176LN comp/limitr $1,600.00 $3,200.00
1 Manley VoxBox MicPre/Comp/Limtr/EQ $3,600.00 $3,600.00
1 Manley Massive Passive EQ $4,320.00 $4,320.00
1 Apogee Big Ben 192k Master Word Clock $1,200.00 $1,200.00
1 Apogee AD 16 AD converter $2,599.00 $2,599.00
1 Apogee DA 16 DA converter $2,599.00 $2,599.00
4 Empirical Labs EL8 Distressors w Brit + Image $1,985.00 $7,940.00
1 Emipirical Labs EL7 Fatso compressor $2,250.00 $2,250.00
1 Alesis • ADAT XT20 $980.00 $980.00
1 Tascam DA-45 24bit DAT Recorder $1,800.00 $1,800.00

Subtotal C $38,977.00


D SYNTHS/SAMPLERS

1 Korg Triton 88 key Workstation $4,000.00 $4,000.00
1 Roland Fantom S 61 Key Workstation $2,095.97 $2,095.97
1 Yamaha Motif Rack Synthesizer $999.00 $999.00
1 Roland XV-5080 Synthesizer $0.00
1 Pioneer CDJ-1000 CD Turntable $1,169.99 $1,169.99
1 Technics SL1210 MKII Turntable $469.00 $469.00
1 Numark TTX1 Digital Turntable $399.00 $399.00
1 Vestax PMC 07 Pro DJ mixer $399.99 $399.99

Subtotal D $9,532.95



E MICS

1 Neumann • U 87 Large Diaphram Microphone $2,346.00 $2,346.00
1 Neumann TLM103 Microphone $975.00 $975.00
2 AKG C414/ULS SE Microphone $700.00 $1,400.00
1 Rode NTK Microphone $500.00 $500.00
4 Shure SM-57 Dynamic Microphone $80.00 $320.00
2 Shure SM Beta-58a SuperCardioid
Microphone $164.00 $328.00
4 Audio Technica Pro 37R High SPL Cardioid Mic $140.00 $560.00
4 Sony MDR 7506 Headphones $99.67 $398.68

Subtotal E $6,827.68


F BASS/GUITAR

1 Music Man Stingray 4 4-String Bass $1,299.99 $1,299.99
1 Yamaha Silent Guitar $550.00 $550.00
1 Warwick RockBass Corvette Classic $549.99 $549.99
1 Hartke Kickback 12 Bass Guitar Combo Amp $459.99 $459.99
1 Boss GT-6B Bass Multi Effect $399.99 $399.99

Subtotal F $3,259.96


G MISCELLANEOUS

4 Furman PL Plus Surge Protector $159.00 $636.00
4 DBX PB-48 patch bay $129.00 $516.00
7 CNB ATA 4-Space Effects Rack $59.99 $419.93
3 CNB ATA 2-Space Effects Rack $49.99 $149.97
5 Auralex MoPad Monitor Isolation Pad $29.97 $149.85
2 High Back Executive Chair $149.98 $299.96
1 Neumann EA1 Nickel Shockmount $185.97 $185.97
1 Rode SM2 Shockmount $49.95 $49.95
1 Neumann Spider Shockmount $0.00 $0.00
1 AKG H100 Elastic Spider Shockmount $0.00 $0.00
6 Quik Lok MI Mic Stand $21.95 $131.70
6 Quik Lok Mic Boom $24.97 $149.82
4 Quik Lok Mic Stand Short W/Boom $35.97 $143.88
6 Quik Lok MI 329 Sheet Music Holder $25.97 $155.82
4 Atlas Mic Stand Tall W/5' Boom $259.97 $1,039.88
1 Quik Lok Z726 Keyboard Stand $199.97 $199.97
4 Rubbermaid Diamond Chair Mat $15.99 $63.96
2 Open Mesh Task Chair $59.99 $119.98
1 Couches, TVs, Cables, Adapters, $5,000.00 $5,000.00
6 Shure Popper Stopper $26.19 $157.14

Subtotal G $9,569.78


Subtotal of A - G $194,199.37

Tax $16,992.44


Total $211,191.81


Peace...

spin
 
Wow, and spinster has over 5000 postings.....

man....i wish I had so much time.....

LOL
 
PLus another $200,000.00 to build the proper facility!
 
Blimey. I think I have about $8 maximum to spend on myself now, and I haven't even bought anything yet :o
 
I think he was saying it's an assignment to build a ficticious recording studio.
 
Nope, he doesn't. He does say it's a thesis, though, which kinda means that it probably is, because otehrwise it's not strictly a thesis, but a project, right?

I withdraw my earlier comment.
However, I now think that if this is the subject of his thesis, his college should have teached him these things. :)
 
but they didnt, my coll sux...

yea its like an assignment..we;ve been given instructions on one peice of paper!

so damn i think i'll break the room into 2 and put console+equip on one side and drum/mic room the other side.

acousticcally treat the studio with around 40,000$ wat do u say..sexy slick studio eh?

juss need help with the graphical view plan of how it shud look..
the room split into 2 with console kept...i mean the angles of walls n that kinda stuff
 
Hmmm.... if that's your assignment - then don't you think you should already have the knowledge in place to be able to do the assignment in the first place?

I don't understand why you're asking people here to do you work for you --- YOU need to know about this if you want to learn anything....... and you aren't going to learn anything asking people to do the work for you.............
 
I agree with you, Bruce.

gamebhai, if you don't do the research yourself, you won't learn anything.

You already have a basic map for building the studio, from the cross-post you have in the STUDIO BUILDING FORUM.

You already have a price per square foot (instead of $150, use $50).

You have a full Studio A pricelist (scratch out the ProTools setup, the majority of the monitors, some keyboards, and the high priced mics). You can use PC based computers and Mackie or Tascam control surfaces.

Setup a not-for-profit organization, to buy the building for one dollar ($1). Also, with the not-for-profit, you won't have to pay a sales tax.

You can get your equipment prices from...

http://www.sweetwater.com/

AND

http://musiciansfriend.com/

You can take off 8% to 10% of the price because you are buying a large amount of equipment AND you have a not-for-profit.

Peace...

spin
 
gamer123

thanx a lot spinster!

ok heres my equipment list

mackie 32/8 $3,600
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/32/8mackie/

Mackie HR824 $565
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/HR824/

Alesis ADAT XT20 $979 * 2 = 1958$
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ADATXT20/

Yamaha GC2020C $389 * 2 = 778$

Digitech Studio Quad 4 $399

Korg Triton Studio 88 $3339 orKorg Triton LE 88 $1999

Fender American Deluxe Telecaster® $1329

Gibson SSSBATNH $1249
Songbird, Antique

Brian Moore Guitars i4 Cherry Sunburst $999

Neumann U 87 LARGE DIAPHRAGM CONDENSOR (mic) $2345

Neumann TLM 103MT $975
Large Diaphragm Mic - Black

AKG C414B-ULS/SE $1800
Special Edition Stereo Pair

Rode NTK $500
Vacuum Tube Condenser Mic

Shure SM-57 $89
Dynamic Microphone

Shure SM-58 $99
dynamic Microphone

Audio Technica Pro 37R $139 * 3 = $417
High SPL Cardioid Mic

Sony MDR-7506 $99 * 4 = $396
Professional Headphones

Neumann EA1 Nickel $185
Nickel Shock Mount

Rode SM2 $50
Shockmount for NTC, NTK, NT1000

Quik Lok MI Mic Stand $21 * 5 = $105
Quik Lok Mic Boom $20 * 3 = $60
Quik Lok MI 329 Sheet Music Holder $25 * 4 = $100
Quik Lok Z726 Keyboard Stand $200

Shure Popper Stopper $26
PS6 Pop Filter w/Gooseneck



DBX PB-48 patch bay $129 * 4 = $516


NON AUDIO EQUIPMENT

Furman PL PLUS POWER SURGE PROTECTOR $159 * 4 = $636


TOTAL = $22715




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now i need to know which is a good air conditioner for the studio?
and WHAT CABLES DO I NEED TO BUY??

please reply!

PLUR
 
PATCHBAYS & CABLES

4 DBX PB-48 patch bay
12 APC-24S 24” Stereo Patch Cable/8 Pack

Monster Cable S100 Instrument Cable
12 3 feet
8 12 feet
4 21 feet
2 Cable Up XLR(M( -XLR(F)Snake Cable(5m)

4 Conquest MIDI Cable (6ft)

ok! what do u think?

and...wats that thing called..a kinda box in the recording room with mic inputs and it is connected to the xlr snake
i juss forgot and i need to search for it! please tell!

ive also added some mic stands, brc,..

I NEED AIR CONDITIONAR!!


..PLUR..
 
You dont nede a air conditionar! Yoo nede too go back to skool and lern to speel.
 
Hey gamebhai.... 'zactly wut dey teechun ya at dat 'kordin' skool, anyways?

Again, it strikes me that you should already know a lot more about the subject than the tone of your questions, not to mention the questions themselves, suggest...!
 
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