Isolationism isn't good for a species historically.
Nobody's recommending long-term isolationism, just a relatively temporary semi-quarantine.
Isolationism isn't good for a species historically.
Nobody's recommending long-term isolationism, just a relatively temporary semi-quarantine.
You seem to be missing the point that the growth is exponential, and NO ONE has immunity to it. It is a “novel” coronavirus. No ones been exposed to it before and therefore there is no inherent immunity.
Nobody's recommending long-term isolationism, just a relatively temporary semi-quarantine.
The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 is estimated to have killed 50 million. Million, not thousands.Do we utterly destroy the lives of a couple hundred million people or more to potentially prevent the deaths of 20K, 50K, 100K...?
I don’t disagree. But for my money I’d rather overreact and be wrong, than the opposite.There is reaction...and over reaction. Time will tell what we have right now.
I don’t disagree. But for my money I’d rather overreact and be wrong, than the opposite.
You’re basically describing the path Italy took. How’s that working out?It's OK for individual to overreact if it makes them feel safer and more comfortable. It's your personal choice.
When it becomes almost dictatorial by state/local governments, where some are already calling for the military to come in, and we are one step away from martial law and curfews...that's a lot of overreaction being imposed without any choices.
I think if they are going to call for lockdowns...they should focus on the hot zones...which are pretty much all in the cities.
That's where they should have locked down right at the start, and kept the spread out into the suburbs and rural areas.
Now, you got some Smalltown USA, no infections and probably too remote to see any...but they have to go into lockdown because of statewide orders.
Those people are usually low income, living on pensions or blue collar jobs where they live pay to pay...and now they got no pay and are told it may be months...and at best, the federal government will toss out as couple of thousand, which is supposed to cover a few months of work shutdown...???
It's going to be a very wrong overreaction if it completely tanks the economy, and in the end, we see marginal mortality rates, no worse than the common flu.
You’re basically describing the path Italy took. How’s that working out?
It's a little strange for some to be kind of saying that disease causes deaths so this virus is no different. That's sort of saying that every death from this virus is somehow ordained. None can be avoided? None can be saved? Do you want to be the one who could been have but wasn't? Now that's real fear.
The Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918 is estimated to have killed 50 million. Million, not thousands.
And the earth’s population was significantly less at the time.
No one said none can avoid it or be saved, it's exactly that kind of thinking that drives the fear and panic...but you have to accept that all will not avoid it or be saved.
Modern medicine always tries to save everyone...and fails miserably, often "torturing" someone to death with their efforts to save them.
Sometimes you have to accept the inevitable...and you roll your dice. When my mother was ill, the doctor said "we could do biopsies and then see where to go from there with possible treatments"..etc. She was 86, and didn't want to be tortured to death.
We agreed that at her age, the odds of saving her or extending her life on some bedridden level was of no benefit and would only prolong the illness...and not her quality of life.
Look at the mortality rates of all the other illnesses and diseases...we accept those as part of life, we're so use to them, they never make the headlines anymore.
In the end, this virus will not even cone close to some of the others.
It's now coming out that the majority of those who died in Italy already had underlying illnesses.
I think people should stop using Italy as the benchmark.
You’re basically describing the path Italy took. How’s that working out?
Miro.......I essentially agree with pretty much all you said........and I was not saying that all could be saved. I was just trying to point out where the fear was coming from for some.....and that some of the fears could be genuine.
Not sure where your “facts” are coming from, but sure, let’s not look at real world experience. What could we possibly learn from that?
And I’m guessing any people with underlying conditions deserved to die? Hey, they were sick already, right?