How to Prevent Guitar Track from getting Exhausting/Boring

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Greg_L said:
I don't know his music down to the molecule. I don't need to. I know that what I hear I don't like. Like I said, I didn't just hear hendrix for the fist time the other day. I've been hearing that mess for a long time. I've never liked it. I can't get with it. I didn't latch on in my formative years, and I don't latch on now. It doesn't impress me, move me, inspire me....in fact, it does just the opposite. I don't need to know every song from every album to know that I don't like it. I don't know every cut from Kanye Wests's new album. I know I don't like it. It's not just me being prejudiced. You know the kind of music I like and play, would you really expect someone like me to like hendrix? I wouldn't!

I'm glad you took the time to try to get into the Ramones, and I was happy to help you with that, but I wouldn't think any less of you if you hated them. Same with Rami. Or anyone else. I don't think any less of you guys for liking the beatles or hendrix or pink floyd or any of the stuff I typically don't like. The stuff I like is not for everyone. And in fact, the Ramones and the Clash are some of those bands that a lot of people like because they think they're supposed to. So most of my animosity is more towards fans of these kinds of bands as opposed to the bands themselves. I don't hate Paul McCartney. I hate the guy that wears a beatles shirt and goes on about how they're the greatest band ever while not being able to name more than a few hit songs. It's just weird to me. Pretty lame.
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I think what is so surprising about you is you are so black and white on what you like and don't like. Not much middle ground. I find that to be a rare trait for a musician. Most musicians have a large palette of musical tastes. Maybe not crazy in love with all music, but more accepting of different genres and appreciative for the art form. Not trying to offend, I think you almost always know where I'm coming from, just observing something that isn't very common. :)

For the Beatles, eh, I liked them when I was kid because everyone liked them back then. But as I grew more into music, I really kind of didn't see the mystique behind them. Still, I can appreciate what they brought to music in general and I can see the workings of their songwriting skills and how they built their harmonies. I don't think any band out there could do harmonies like the Beatles or the Beach Boys. I gotta appreciate that even if I don't listen to them.
 
RAMI said:
Wow! I had to Google "Inner Light". Never heard it before, and I thought I know every single thing the Beatles did. It was a B-Side to "Lady Madonna", and not on any album, it seems. Yes, less haunting than the others he did.
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I heard it when I first was getting into The Beatles because my uncle put all of their songs in chronological order on cassettes, including single only songs that weren't on albums. But yeah, its one of those songs that many Beatles fans don't even know about because it wasn't on any of their albums, it wasn't on their "1" album, and whose gonna buy the Lady Madonna/Inner Light 45 single these days? It is on the Past Masters though.

Kinda reminds me when I was wanting to record a cover of Only a Northern Song. I asked around for friends and stuff who could sing, and they're like....."what song?" And these were all Beatles fans. Funny, but sad at the same time, because that's like my third favorite Beatles song!

Also, it was the only Beatles song recorded in India (Inner Light, that is)
 
Chili said:
I think what is so surprising about you is you are so black and white on what you like and don't like. Not much middle ground. I find that to be a rare trait for a musician. Most musicians have a large palette of musical tastes. Maybe not crazy in love with all music, but more accepting of different genres and appreciative for the art form. Not trying to offend, I think you almost always know where I'm coming from, just observing something that isn't very common. :)
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No offense taken. You're not totally wrong about me. I could explain myself just for clarification, but really there's no point.
 
Actually the Monkees were the band that influenced me and my playing the most! Now back to the subject at hand: my girlfriend went to the mall yesterday and I was left with some time on my hands. So I decided to take matters into my own hands since my hands don't insist that I cuddle with them afterwards. I noticed that my playing(with myself) in the monotonous up and down strumming pattern in 4/4 time that I'd been doing now for more years than I can count had become very boring. I was wondering if anyone here had any suggestions as to what I could do to make my playing(with myself) more exciting? Perhaps changing the time signature? Perhaps adding some reverb? Perhaps some compression? Help me out here guys!
 
Greg_L said:
No offense taken. You're not totally wrong about me. I could explain myself just for clarification, but really there's no point.
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I absolutely know that you're never gonna like Hendrix's music .... hell, when I record you're gonna loathe mine. I have a certain understanding of your tastes.

I'm just saying Hendrix wasn't a blues player.
 
A note on Hendrix: until very recently I was under the impression that Hendrix couldn't read and didn't know theory. Turns out I was wrong. Hendrix could read and did know theory. And if you've ever listened to some of the stuff he was doing towards the end of his life you could tell that we was heading in a jazz direction. Speaking of jazz; if you get the opportunity to see a documentary by Ken Burns called,"Jazz", watch it! It is not only entertaining, it is also very educational. It's close to ten hours long, and if you like music the way I like music, you'll enjoy it!
 
XploZiveToyz said:
A note on Hendrix: until very recently I was under the impression that Hendrix couldn't read and didn't know theory. Turns out I was wrong. Hendrix could read and did know theory. And if you've ever listened to some of the stuff he was doing towards the end of his life you could tell that we was heading in a jazz direction. Speaking of jazz; if you get the opportunity to see a documentary by Ken Burns called,"Jazz", watch it! It is not only entertaining, it is also very educational. It's close to ten hours long, and if you like music the way I like music, you'll enjoy it!
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I personally have always thought of him as more of a jazz player than a blues player.

In fact ...... what's his name dammit ...... ummmm ... man I can't think of it ..... I'll come edit it in when I find it but a big time jazz guitarist recently said the same thing in an interview. He was asked about Hendrix being just a blues guy and he said that he didn't see him as blues at all and , in fact, personally felt all the so called blues based rock bands like Cream and Hendrix and Zep were all a lot closer in spirit to jazz with the extended permutations off a central theme and the willingness to blend different rhythmic versions within the same song.

But back to Hendrix ..... he used a LOT of pretty convoluted progressions ...... like him or not ..... he wasn't a blues guitarist.

And to greg: I know none of this is personal or serious .... it's just an interesting discussion.
 
XploZiveToyz said:
Actually the Monkees were the band that influenced me and my playing the most! Now back to the subject at hand: my girlfriend went to the mall yesterday and I was left with some time on my hands. So I decided to take matters into my own hands since my hands don't insist that I cuddle with them afterwards. I noticed that my playing(with myself) in the monotonous up and down strumming pattern in 4/4 time that I'd been doing now for more years than I can count had become very boring. I was wondering if anyone here had any suggestions as to what I could do to make my playing(with myself) more exciting? Perhaps changing the time signature? Perhaps adding some reverb? Perhaps some compression? Help me out here guys!
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Check post #2 in this thread for the answer. ;)
 
Hendrix definitely was no blues guitarist. He may of borrowed a few few blues guitar licks, amplified and distorted them but his music is far from blues. He was just balls out basic rock at first, before, as said above, leaning towards jazz and funk. He definitely wasn't sloppy on his recordings like he could be live. I would be inclined to believe that was possibly down to adrenaline, drugs or alcohol. Or a combination of the three.

Now Rory Gallagher, from the same time and ilk, was a blues/rock guitarist. The difference between him and Hendrix is like night and day.

I think I must fall into the catergory of someone who likes all music. I don't have a specific genre that I listen to. My favourite music is from the 50's & 60's, rock n roll, beat, mod, rock band but I also love punk. The Clash are one of my favourite bands as are The Beach Boys. I have a vinyl record collection that spans from the 30's to last week with 1000's of artists, bands and genres in between. (Just got Arctic Monkeys new album on vinyl)

My vinyl is one of the reasons why I'm moving house. Need more space for it. I just love music. Full stop.
 
I never said he was a straight up blues guy like BB King or something. I never said his music is pure blues. Hendrix music is guitar-driven riff based slow-poke bluesy rock that's amplified to extremes and played shit sloppy. Somewhere along the lines his noise and sloppiness and poor timing was mistaken for feel and emotion, and here we are still talking about that awful crap. That's what I hear when I hear Hendrix music. It all sounds to me like a scratch track demo of someone trying to figure out what to play so they just make shit up as they go along.
 
Lt. Bob said:
And to greg: I know none of this is personal or serious .... it's just an interesting discussion.
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No, I'm not taking anything personally. Trust me, I've had this same talk with countless people for years. Some people do get really upset about it. :laughings:
 
People who get upset are knobheads. :thumbs up:

I would've thought you'd 'get' Hendrix Greg, considering his almost punk-esque ethos.

Personally I like his albums. I couldn't care for his live footage at all.

EDIT* 24 pages......this thread is really taking off!
 
Mr Clean said:
People who get upset are knobheads. :thumbs up:

I would've thought you'd 'get' Hendrix Greg, considering his almost punk-esque ethos.
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Lol. Yall need to quit trying to figure me out. Why on earth would I like Hendrix? Give me one solid reason to like his music. What am I missing that I need to "get" about it? This what I ask all hendrix lovers when they look at me sideways. What do you guys like about Hendrix that I could be missing out on?

Just to throw you guys a bone, I'd listen to the beatles any day over hendrix. :D
 
I suppose it's like the Dylan thing. You either love him or hate him. No one can tell you to listen to what you can't hear I guess.

On a better/different note, my Clash boxset has just arrived. Time for some loud music......
 
Mr Clean said:
I think I must fall into the catergory of someone who likes all music. I don't have a specific genre that I listen to. My favourite music is from the 50's & 60's, rock n roll, beat, mod, rock band but I also love punk. The Clash are one of my favourite bands as are The Beach Boys. I have a vinyl record collection that spans from the 30's to last week with 1000's of artists, bands and genres in between. (Just got Arctic Monkeys new album on vinyl)

My vinyl is one of the reasons why I'm moving house. Need more space for it. I just love music. Full stop.
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yeah, that's me too. I like everything.

I have my favorites, of course, but in general good music is good music.
I don't , however, like classical music at all ...... and before someone tells me I just need to learn more about it, I played bassoon in symphony ..... I understand it quite well .... it just bores me.

As for vinyl ..... I love vinyl ... last count I have about 6000 albums.

But to be honest, I rarely listen for fun anymore ....... after 15,000 gigs and continuing to gig nightly I spend so much time working on music that the last thing I want to do is put down my ax after a few hours work and listen to music.
That's kinda too bad because I used to love to just listen but it comes with the territory I guess.
 
Greg_L said:
I never said he was a straight up blues guy like BB King or something. I never said his music is pure blues. Hendrix music is guitar-driven riff based slow-poke bluesy rock that's amplified to extremes and played shit sloppy. Somewhere along the lines his noise and sloppiness and poor timing was mistaken for feel and emotion, and here we are still talking about that awful crap. That's what I hear when I hear Hendrix music. It all sounds to me like a scratch track demo of someone trying to figure out what to play so they just make shit up as they go along.
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sorry ..... all of that is wrong.

I don't care if you like him or not and I'm certainly not upset by it nor am I evangelistic about getting people to like him ... I'm indifferent.

But every single thing you said in this post is incorrect and bears no resemblance to what Hendrix did or what his music is like.

A rare case of the Gerg being in a different universe than reality.

:laughings:
 
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