Real drums - snare in the overhead - help!!

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CMB Studios said:
no nerve has been struck, im interested to hear the problem because i've never heard of it, and im interested in hearing the fixes... how is that a struck nerve?
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you sound angry.

We can have a group hug if you'd like. :)




:D
 
CMB Studios said:
no nerve has been struck, im interested to hear the problem because i've never heard of it, and im interested in hearing the fixes... how is that a struck nerve?
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Okay. No harm no foul. My results are sufficient but nowhere near "luxurious". :)
 
Wouldn't mind hearing a before/after too.

My first group hug! Awesome. Right place, right time I guess.
 
I'll try to get the time to post a before and after this evening. You guys are so loving. LOL
 
Thanks for posting the links. It's always cool to hear before and after versions.

I agree that the snare in the processed version sounds better but I'm hearing what I think is an artifact at the beginning of many of the snare hits (like a click or crackle) and I'm wondering if you can hear that in the mix or if it's covered by the other instruments and if, in fact, it's being caused by the compressor or if that's what was captured by the snare mic.

Cheers.
 
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Alright, I'm a WEE bit late to the party, but to add on to what other people were saying about doing compression on the OH side-chained to the snare...

If you've got a rock/metal song you're doing this for, it may sound pretty cool if you had that quick attack on the compressor, and then timed the release to the tempo of the song so it had pumping sound to it.

Just a suggestion. =]
 
there definitely some clicks in there with the compressed version.

edit - did you mic the kick?
 
dug dog said:
Thanks for posting the links. It's always cool to hear before and after versions.

I agree that the snare in the processed version sounds better but I'm hearing what I think is an artifact at the beginning of many of the snare hits (like a click or crackle) and I'm wondering if you can hear that in the mix or if it's covered by the other instruments and if, in fact, it's being caused by the compressor or if that's what was captured by the snare mic.




Cheers.
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I barely hear what you're talking about regarding the cracle. I don't really hear it at all in the mix. It may be part of what the comp is not taking out of the OH. He's bounces the stick on the snare a few times as well, but I don't think this is what you're referring to.

MrWrenchey said:
Alright, I'm a WEE bit late to the party, but to add on to what other people were saying about doing compression on the OH side-chained to the snare...

If you've got a rock/metal song you're doing this for, it may sound pretty cool if you had that quick attack on the compressor, and then timed the release to the tempo of the song so it had pumping sound to it.

Just a suggestion. =]
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I may give this a shot to see what it sounds like.



CMB Studios said:
there definitely some clicks in there with the compressed version.

edit - did you mic the kick?
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I do hear the clicks...barely. Not as obvious in the mix. The kick is mic'd. I didn't physically do any of the micing. I was only able to give them some mic ideas and guidelines.
 
nomadx said:
I barely hear what you're talking about regarding the cracle. I don't really hear it at all in the mix. It may be part of what the comp is not taking out of the OH. He's bounces the stick on the snare a few times as well, but I don't think this is what you're referring to.



I may give this a shot to see what it sounds like.





I do hear the clicks...barely. Not as obvious in the mix. The kick is mic'd. I didn't physically do any of the micing. I was only able to give them some mic ideas and guidelines.
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OK well i'd do what you can to get rid of the artifacts because they are pretty apparent.

and the kick you should do a little EQ work. definitely some mid/lows or mids that need to get chopped to get rid of some of the boxiness/hallow sound.
 
CMB Studios said:
OK well i'd do what you can to get rid of the artifacts because they are pretty apparent.

and the kick you should do a little EQ work. definitely some mid/lows or mids that need to get chopped to get rid of some of the boxiness/hallow sound.
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Thanks for your guidance, CMB.
 
Try a softer knee on the compressor maybe to help get rid of the artefacts? Or slightly extend the attack.
 
Snare Problem solution

Try isolating all your mics and figure out where the snare is coming out the most. You mentioned the ovh so I'm assuming you may have already done this. You need to determine the application of the ovh. For instance since everything is close mic'd then try making your single overhead a room mic. Just make sure to check your phase. You can also pull up your eq and figure out where the snare is peaking and reduce that frequency from the parameters.

Level all your faders except your ovh mic, and bleed that in slowly until you get the balance you want. There are many ways to go about this, but this would be my choice based on the information given. Let me know if this works out.
 
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