Why So Many Home Songs Suck

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Steenamaroo said:
LOL. I know. I was just pulling at a thread.


I think professional results can be achieved in a home recording environment and there are plenty of potentially professional songwriters.

Before HR existed, I'm sure there were thousands of studios churning out thousands of records that never went anywhere.
The same thing happens now, except it happens at home.
Songwriting as a global art hasn't declined in quality because people record at home. You just hear more of the bad stuff because it's right at your fingertips.

Sure, the technology is much more accessible and what have you, but that just means you don't have to pay someone else £20 an hour to not quite succeed in music.

Things change. If studios are out of pocket over this, they should adapt. Plenty have done. There's a massive market now for audio technology education. Turn your studio into a training facility and your probably back in the money.
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You can think whatever you want, but you are wrong. Sure bring in an engineer, producer, a band and write a great song, yeah you can do it.

Doing it all yourself you cant and you wont.
 
hates recording said:
Theres alot of reasons music is not as good today, use of click tracks, songs that are watered down to hooks, and ironically in rock music,
the failure of most songs to shake you booty. Rock music was all about dancing, today rock music is about dying.

All the vibrance is gone. Theres still some great rock bands out there, but they are not getting the attenion they should.
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Lol. More self-righteous nonsense. Since when does your opinion/definition of what music should be mean jack shit? :yawn:


And if real musicians cant create a vibrant sound, some kid in his room surely cant do it.
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And neither can you, so maybe you could STFU now? :thumbs up:
 
Greg_L said:
That's absurd, and frankly, completely stupid. Naive and delusional people are what they are. Nothing leads them to be that way.

Besides, wasn't the first Foo Fighters album done completely at home by Dave Grohl by himself? That's about as mainstream, and home recorded, as you can get if it's true.


And this upsets you, why? You don't have to listen to everything recorded by everyone ever. You don't have to listen to anything.
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And his record sold cause he already had succes with a fairly succesful band Nirvana, he wasnt you on home recording forum.

If you are an established artist you can do alot of things many cant. you can write whatever the hell you want and some fans will buy it because of who you are.

And you are not Dave Grohl.
 
hates recording said:
You can think whatever you want, but you are wrong. Sure bring in an engineer, producer, a band and write a great song, yeah you can do it.

Doing it all yourself you cant and you wont.
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I'm not a songwriter, so I do bring in bands with great songs.
I have absolutely no desire to achieve commercial success, because as I said, I don't write songs, and any personal recording that I do is for fun or for experience.

A few guys who have recorded with me have gone on to do pretty well with it though.
One band in particular recorded with me 3 or 4 years ago. I was out of the country when they did their next record, but with the airplay they got and fanbase they built out of my record, I would not be surprised at all if they really took off.

There's another lad, Pete. Love him or hate him; It's subjective and I don't care, but in the opinion of many he's a fantastic songwriter.
He's not even one in a million. There are plenty like him kicking around.
He's another one who's getting pretty good airplay, locally at least.
His royalty check for the first 4 months of release just came in at four figures.
Pop chart dominating material?no. But the venture more than paid for itself, and we're not finished yet.

Obviously the odds are well against anyone no matter how good they are, but I would not be shocked at all if he made a career out of what he does.
I don't claim to be a professional engineer or producer. I'm learning like anyone else, but my work certainly hasn't hindered him,
and it's never been in question with regard to local radio play.
When you keep in mind that I do this out of an untreated garage, I think we do OK.
 
Steenamaroo said:
You just hear more of the bad stuff because it's right at your fingertips.
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Exactly. It's not how or where it was recorded, it's only because the scenery is flooded with everyone's crap. Literally anyone always could record a song, good or bad. But now, they can easily get it "out there". The only difference between now and these fanatsy days that this guy is rambling about is the internet.
 
hates recording said:
And his record sold cause he already had succes with a fairly succesful band Nirvana, he wasnt you on home recording forum.

If you are an established artist you can do alot of things many cant. you can write whatever the hell you want and some fans will buy it because of who you are.

And you are not Dave Grohl.
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You said that home recordings are not mainstream. I showed you one that was. Don't shoot the messenger, shoot yourself.


P.S. - I'm way better than Dave Grohl.
 
Greg_L said:
Lol. More self-righteous nonsense. Since when does your opinion/definition of what music should be mean jack shit? :yawn:




And neither can you, so maybe you could STFU now? :thumbs up:
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Because you have been a member since 2006, and you still know all the answers.

Nor do I try to do it all myself, it didnt take me since 2006 to figure that out.
 
hates recording said:
Because you have been a member since 2006, and you still know all the answers.

Nor do I try to do it all myself, it didnt take me since 2006 to figure that out.
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What does my registration date have to do with anything?

You don't "do it all yourself" because you can't. You're an unskilled coward. You're insecure yet have an ego that's gone haywire. Classic defense mechanism. You don't have the talent to make your own self-righteous ideas become a reality. Again, that's no reason to lash out at those that can and do. You're a jealous hater. It's plainly obvious.
 
People have posted good examples of commercially successful home products recently.
I'm awful with names so they escape me, but who was that Swedish lad everyone was talking about last week?
Someone's bound to know.
 
Steenamaroo said:
People have posted good examples of commercially successful home products recently.
I'm awful with names so they escape me, but who was that Swedish lad everyone was talking about last week?
Someone's bound to know.
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Some can and often do. But it's not one guy playing writer, singer, band, engineer, producer, or pr guy. Ive heard some really really good home recordings, but they are nothing that you hear on radio.

Your recordings are "ok" sounding, so you might have hurt your client, he thinks he's getting great recordings.

If one was lucky enough to have a chance get on commercial radio, that chance would be gone if they didnt have a radio ready recording
 
insincerity is in your music, so it's not surprising you write it here as well.
 
Lol! Fuck commercial radio. If that's your barometer of "good", then you are more clueless than I first thought.

Man, I'd really love to hear one of my songs sandwiched between Demi Lovato and Nickelback. :laughings::laughings:
 
Greg_L said:
Just make shit up when you don't understand something, like this hates recording guy is doing. :D
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Insincerity is in your music, so why wouldnt you write insincere stuff here as well...
 
hates recording said:
Some can and often do. But it's not one guy playing writer, singer, band, engineer, producer, or pr guy.
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Of course it's not, now that you've just added PR guy to the list.
He also didn't manufacture his own cd covers, so I guess he definitely doesn't count. :facepalm:

My recordings do exactly what I want them to do.
The word client suggests that I'm running a business, which is exactly where you've gone wrong here from the start.

Pete, for example, would have to get very far before production would be his limiting factor, in my opinion.
Given that he works 9-5 and this is a hobby for him too, I reckon we do pretty well.
 
Greg_L said:
Lol! Fuck commercial radio. If that's your barometer of "good", then you are more clueless than I first thought.

Man, I'd really love to hear one of my songs sandwiched between Demi Lovato and Nickelback. :laughings::laughings:
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Whether it's good or not is irrelevant, if it doesnt sound top notch, it's going to stay right here on home recording forum, you know this you have been here 6 years.

and it's not likely to change
 
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