Glynn Johns Mic Set Up

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What is the mic set up? I got a reference by some other guy on HR, so I googled it, and saw at least 4 different methods claiming to be the "Glynn Johns" method. Can someone explain what it is?
 
This is the definitive Glyn Johns miking technique. And I'll tickle the man that says it isn't so ! :D
 
grimtraveller said:
This is the definitive Glyn Johns miking technique. And I'll tickle the man that says it isn't so ! :D
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Thanks, it's nice to know what the definitive set up is. If I were to have an LDC, an SDC, and two dynamic (sm 57) mics, what position would you say each should go in?
 
The positions on the article. Truth be told though, RAMI's your man for this technique. He puts it to maximum effect with four mics and knows what he's talking about. I'm just like a postman on this one or a harbinger, if you like.
 
If that's what you have definitely use the 57s on the kick and snare.

I'd put the LDC above the snare and the SDC to the side. But ideally this method would work with two of the same overheads.

One thing I think is important, others may not do this but I think it was part of his method...pan the overhead that is next to the floor tom all the way to the Left, and the one over the snare 50% to the right. If you pan them hard right and hard left you'll probably end up with the snare somewhere off to the right.
 
aaronmcoleman said:
If you pan them hard right and hard left you'll probably end up with the snare somewhere off to the right.
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How would that happen if you placed the mics equal distance from the snare like you're supposed to? I pan both tracks hard and my snare's right in the middle.
 
RAMI said:
How would that happen if you placed the mics equal distance from the snare like you're supposed to? I pan both tracks hard and my snare's right in the middle.
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Hmm maybe I'm just doing something wrong. A guy I was learning from did this and his snare always sounded centered.

I don't know, just do what rami says and ignore me :)
 
aaronmcoleman said:
Hmm maybe I'm just doing something wrong. A guy I was learning from did this and his snare always sounded centered.

I don't know, just do what rami says and ignore me :)
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Hehe...Nah, don't ignore anyone. experiment for yourself. You might find yourself getting the same results as Aaron.


But, in my experience, it shouldn't be a problem if you carefully measure the distance between the 2 overhads and the snare.
 
Yeah I always thought the equal distance from the snare was a phase thing, and that the snare volume was higher in the directly overhead mic. When I record, that's what I've found, panning around 60% right makes the kit sound even. But, I'm a hack and Rami is pretty darn good with drums.

I also pan for audience perspective (i.e. high hats to the right, floor tom to the left), while most pan for drummer's perspective (or course that shouldn't affect the amount you pan, just the direction).
 
I think that sometimes the snare is tonally meatier in the mic directly over it as opposed to the one near the floor tom so it can give the impression of being offcentered, but the volume is actually matched.
I also think the higher your position the floor tom side mic is (instead of like 6-8 Inches above the rim of the floor tom) the more the snare tonally sounds centered.
My experience anyway.
 
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