Basement studio treatment

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Hi, could you help me with accoustic treatment in my basement studio/rehearsal room?
This is the current setup
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And I have absolutely no idea where to put the accoustic tiles or foam to improve sound of my recordings.
Thanks a lot
 
Where are you doing your mixing from, at desk with the 'stool' (i'm assuming the brown octagon)? If so, move mixing spot to 'other desk' otherwise that wall to your right will cause some problems. Put couch behind 'other desk' too if you've got room. Acoustic tiles generally go in the middle of the walls, if that's all you have right now (think of a trampoline, how you'll bounce higher in the middle, rather than closer to the edges). Feel free to correct me if that's wrong... You'll want bass traps for that live room asap. Acoustic tiles will break up some of the higher frequencies, but lower frequencies will go ape-sh*t and cause mud.

You'll hear it when you snap your finger in the room and don't hear many reflections, but when you clap you can hear some echo.
 
Yeah, you want your desk centered within the side walls, preferably facing one of the short walls. The idea is to keep your stereo image centered. And to add as much distance between your monitors, and reflections from back wall. Ideally, you want your monitors off the front wall as much as possible. I have heard 38% is ideal, but not sure that would apply in an almost square room. You will absolutely want to place bass traps in each corner, and first reflection points before you even take measurements of the room to fine tune it. There is a buttload of info on this here and on the net.

Welcome to the forum man! :D
 
Put superchunks or panels in all four corners, that would be a good start.
 
Ok, thanks. Mixing at the "other table" was my first idea, but I chose the desk near the wall, so that I can see for example the drummer, while I'm tracking drums. But after watching few episodes of studio rescue, I will move the desk to the center and make the basic first reflection thing :D

Do you think, that this will be ok?
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Good start! I'd stick a cloud absorber above your mixing desk and then two in the other room, don't know if you have accounted for doing any of those.

Then your also going to need something on the side walls in the mixing room. And something to cover the window, there's going to be some weird reflections coming off that wall.

And I would move the couch over to the right so it's sitting in that corner to help stop some of the weird bounces that may happen. It's kind of weird having the piece of wall sticking out like that, especially right behind your mixing position.

Anyone else want to comment on that?
 
And what type of foam or panels would you recommend?

thomann.de/cz/the_takustik_pyramidenschaum_5020_2er_set.htm
thomann.de/cz/the_takustik_noppenschaum_1030_4er_set.htm

I assume that these foams will treat just the higher frequencies, so I'll hang them above the desk, on the rear wall (above the couch) and on the first reflection points, maybe few to the "live room".

thomann.de/cz/eq_acoustics_spectrum_trap_50l_grey.htm

Is this panel enough to tame the bass frequencies? And how much of them should I buy? Just one to each corner?

Capt Hair said:
And something to cover the window, there's going to be some weird reflections coming off that wall.

And I would move the couch over to the right so it's sitting in that corner to help stop some of the weird bounces that may happen.
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The windows aren't big deal I think, they are just cca. 35cm x 60cm. And in the corner is lot of stuff, which acts like bass trap, so the couch can stay there

P.S. Sorry about the URLs, but I don't have enough posts yet :D
 
You shouldn't do anything about high frequencies until you sort out the low frequencies. 1 in each corner is a good place to start it seems. You'll also probably want one above where you sit and on the back and front walls and the side walls and the corners between each wall and the ceiling. =P
 
somegeezer said:
You shouldn't do anything about high frequencies until you sort out the low frequencies. 1 in each corner is a good place to start it seems. You'll also probably want one above where you sit and on the back and front walls and the side walls and the corners between each wall and the ceiling. =P
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That quote should be a sticky on every forum on room treatment. Hell any forum on anything involving recording!
 
jimmys69 said:
That quote should be a sticky on every forum on room treatment. Hell any forum on anything involving recording!
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.....and just like with posting links, everyone should need 10 posts before they're allowed to type the word "foam". Hopefully, by that time, they'll have read enough to know not to type it. :D
 
RAMI said:
.....and just like with posting links, everyone should need 10 posts before they're allowed to type the word "foam". Hopefully, by that time, they'll have read enough to know not to type it. :D
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No doubt! Maybe 'FOAM' should be one of those words that can't be posted. Like pron. That might give reason to think. :D:guitar:
 
RAMI said:
.....and just like with posting links, everyone should need 10 posts before they're allowed to type the word "foam". Hopefully, by that time, they'll have read enough to know not to type it. :D
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I've learnt a lot about room treatment myself and I haven't even treated my room. =P It's amazing what you can learn, just from reading what other people post. That amazing invention, the search function, would really work well for all these new people too!
 
kraliikful said:
Ok, thanks. Mixing at the "other table" was my first idea, but I chose the desk near the wall, so that I can see for example the drummer, while I'm tracking drums. But after watching few episodes of studio rescue, I will move the desk to the center and make the basic first reflection thing :D

Do you think, that this will be ok?
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Studio Rescue?? Is that a real show?
 
found it on you tube, put on by Rode. they use lots of FOAM
 
jaydub1023 said:
found it on you tube, put on by Rode. they use lots of FOAM
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Interesting. I'll check it out. Just had a buddy in Australia get a makeover from some company who also recommended foam. Not the ideal starting point for treating anything but flutter echo.
 
Maybe you are thinking of Studio SOS in the Sound on Sound magazine, they always use foam. However it should be pointed out that they are dealing with very small home studios and often they are only dealing with early reflections and make other recommendations. They also don't cover everything with the stuff and they don't try to use it as sound proofing.

A little foam is OK to use but it won't solve big problem and it does not sound proof.
 
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