Ceiling Trap Concept - What do you think?

[arcadeko]

So with my space, full 2'x4'x4" panels along the ceiling corner are not exactly ideal. I have designed a modified Superchunk trap that uses 75% of the material of a full size panel with varying depth from 2" to 6" - These would be much easier to install but I am not positive of the effectiveness. Let me know what you think.

This concept shows the unwrapped trap. While the actual surface area of the trap is less than a full panel, I would be able to add more of these so effectively I would be covering more surface area by using additional modules.

 

[moresound]

Looks cool Wes!

Don't see why it wouldn't work.

 

[arcadeko]

Another possible method for filling using the basic superchunk stack method. However, this design uses 50% less material (eg 1 panel makes one trap, as opposed to 1.5 panels for the 3 layer fill, also creates less 6" and 4" depth area). Uses less panels which I would imagine directly affects the effectiveness of the trap - it also would take a lot more cutting of rockwool which I do not imagine will be that easy.

 

[arcadeko]

One more showing the panel mounted and notched for the trim.

 

[diggy_dude]

What's your desk layout? The overheads absorb reflections from the desk. I would like to see how these wedges will be installed together with furniture and gear in the room.

 

[arcadeko]

What's your desk layout? The overheads absorb reflections from the desk. I would like to see how these wedges will be installed together with furniture and gear in the room.

 

[Myriad_Rocker]

That's a pretty neat design. I think it's functional and looks cool. The deepest part is right about where you need it to be, as well. Kudos.

So...my question is, how are you fastening them?

 

[Bryan316]

Here's my horrible, ignorant, uneducated opinions.

*cracks open beer*


*at work*


*at 8:30am*



Doing a bunch of triangles will be easier to cut, then long 45-degree angle cuts. Trying to get those long angled cuts will be clumsy and tedious and frustrating. The multiple triangles will be much easier. Simply make a cardboard or particle board template, and slice down the lines.

Invest in a very good razor blade, and you'll be through this project in no time. Might I recommend this big bad boy:

Stanley FatMax 18mm Snap-Off Knife

This blade is HUGE. I bought this knife as a gag, and now its the only utility knife I bother grabbing. I bought it to cut through 2" rigid foam insulation boards for building Halloween props and tombstones and cemetery gates (that I need to get back to, September's half done and October moves fast!) and all kinds of goofy projects. But it also chops through dense acoustic ceiling tiles and fiberglass insulation lickety split!

Yes, I just typed lickety split. You know you want to now.

When fully extended, the blad is stiff and sturdy, the handle is very fat and comfy in your palm, and it's about 3-1/2" worth of penetration. If you put a template or wider yard stick on the Roxul or OC703 and put good pressure, you'll cut right through it in three strokes, clean and straight. Tip gets dull, snap off and continue slicing.

This will make your cutting labors easier and quicker, guaranteed.

 

[JimmyS1969]

It also cuts through a thumb like butter as well. 8 stitches to prove it. Use caution and try to avoid beer while using.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

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Doing a bunch of triangles will be easier to cut, then long 45-degree angle cuts. rying to get those long angled cuts will be clumsy and tedious and frustrating

Not if you use an electric knife. I got one at a thrift store for $2

Reason is, I also have to make long precision 45degree cuts. The blade is long enough to cut 4" thick material at a 45degree angle and still have enough length to go through a a jig like a table saw/fence. That is...if I ever get to it.

Here is what I mean. This is a model I built to figure out the parts to get the most out of my material. I'm cutting from 4"X4'X10' sheets.

I need very precision cuts because of the fabric frames that surround the panels.
Here's what I mean.

I could never get these cut ACCURATELY with a utility knife. Hence the electric knife. I do have a table saw, but a 10" blade isn't deep enough to cut 4" material at a 45.

Anyway, thought I'd share that with you. Oh, and btw, I based the model scale on 1/2" thick rigid fiberglass ceiling tiles. 1/2"=4" Hence 1 1/2"=12" scale.

fitZ

 

[miroslav]

That is...if I ever get to it.

Just curious...how far along are you really with your studio build?
I mean...is the studio build more of a pastime hobby, which is cool, we all need something to do to keep us out of trouble...
...or do you have a plan for actually recording in the finished digs at some point?

The reason I ask is that I've seen you post your studio plans many times over the last couple of years...but I'm curious how far you've come along with the actual build after a few years.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Just curious...how far along are you really with your studio build?

How far along do YOU think I should be?

I mean...is the studio build more of a pastime hobby, which is cool, we all need something to do to keep us out of trouble...

Pastime? Keep out of trouble? Dude, I ain't got no goddamned pastime. And YOU don't know the meaning of trouble. Why do you think it's NOT done. And btw, when's the last time you took care of a 92 year old father with Alzhiemers, hmmm. Ever clean your dads ass 10 times a day? Or clean the bathroom after he has the shits...three or four times...in the middle of the night!!????


Or when's the last time you had 4 surgery's for Cancer in one year...WHILE taking care of a dad with Alzhiemers... hmmmm?

Or was forced to move 12 times in 3 years. Or was laid off and no work to find?

Those are only a FEW of the things that have held up my progress over the last "couple of years"


Hobby indeed.

I find it amusing that some people here have the time, money, and other resources it takes to build a studio, and think EVERYONE should have the same. Dude, do yourself a favor. If you don't like people who haven't "finished" their studio, helping people...then don't click on my replys. Because frankly, I don't give a shit what you think.

.or do you have a plan for actually recording in the finished digs at some point?

That's ludacrous. Why would anyone start something with no intention of using it. Of fucking course I have a PLAN to use it. Unfortunately, life doesn't give a fucking shit about human beings plans, and I'm no goddamned exception, but maybe YOU are. If so, lucky you.

.but I'm curious how far you've come along with the actual build after a few years.

Happy now? All the fabric frames are built. The rear wall diffuser is built. Just need to install them and hook things up. Trouble is...now I've got Rhumatoid arthritis in my hands and can't even make a chord on my guitar. Ain't life grand? Now...any more questions?

Oh, one more thing. Please show us YOUR extensive DIY finished work.

 

[miroslav]

Hey man...don't get all flustered, it was a legitimate question.
I've only seen a couple of actual pics in the past two years of your half-finished console desk, and the rest were always just graphic renditions of your studio plans.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but a lot of folks put up pics of their studio builds...so I was curious where you were at since I've seen you post your plans many times, but not any pics of the studio, which is why I asked if the studio build was just a pastime. It's not that far fetched, some people just like to build stuff.
Most guys building studios are usually in a rush to get them done so they can focus on the primary purpose and do some recording.

AFA you giving me your list of personal setbacks/problems....I wasn't looking for that, and by the way, we all have them, so while I can say "sorry for your personal troubles", you ain't alone, but I'm not going to discuss mine on the forums.
Life goes on.....

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey man...don't get all flustered, it was a legitimate question.

Flustered? Well, everyone's entitled to their opinion. And yea, it was. And I gave you a legitimate answer. You said you hadn't seen me post pics in a couple of years. Well, I told you why. That doesn't make me "flustered".

some people just like to build stuff.

Me included. But that doesn't mean I build something just to build it.

Most guys building studios are usually in a rush to get them done so they can focus on the primary purpose and do some recording.

Dude, every time I have a few hours that I can spend on this I'm in a rush. Unfortunately, those hours are far and few between. And so is money. The fact is..SOME people have the time and money to do it in one fell swoop. I don't. That doesn't mean I'm doing this for some other reason than recording. I mean...get real.

AFA you giving me your list of personal setbacks/problems.

Well, you're the one that said you hadn't seen any pics for a couple of years. I simply told you why. What would you have preferred...it's none of your damn business?

And as far as posting my problems on forums is concerned, your implication is ludicrous. I did it this one time so you would understand why this has taken so long. My bad. Never again.

 

[miroslav]

Breathe Rick....breathe....

I will never again ask you about your studio build since it's obviously such a difficult subject for you to discuss in a civil manner.
For someone that doesn't miss an opportunity to discuss everyone else's studio builds and offer up a gazillion opinions....you sure are very defensive and touchy about discussing your own studio build.
Just remember, whatever frustrations and issues you've had to deal with...are not my doing, so don't take them out on me.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

I will never again ask you about your studio build

Whatever.

since it's obviously such a difficult subject for you to discuss in a civil manner.

I'm sorry you took offense to my reply's miraslav. Perhaps we are two different types of people.

you sure are very defensive and touchy about discussing your own studio build.

Defensive and touchy? That's odd. I offer up my own DIY experience via my studio all the time. They're not opinions. With regards to my own, they are fact. But I'll file your opinion under ....perceived behavior quirks.

Maybe it would help if you understood something. My dad used to tell critics of his 20 yr DIY Aircraft building methodology journey...."Where were you when I needed help or money" I learned from the master.

BTW, ever bolted the back of a Dodge alternator to the firewall of a Dautsun so you could run the wires from the diodes to the connections on the Dautsun alternator because the diodes were fried? That's what you do when you your pockets are empty.
My studio is built from that same mindset. Unfortunately, it takes time. However, I still get from point A to point B eventually, and if your in the Desert with a fried crankshaft bearing on a Model T, and your life depends on coming up with a solution, that's all that matters. In this case, my dad used his belt. He was 11 yrs old.

I guess that's why the PB-Y that discovered the Japs going to Midway made it back to the base. He was an 18 yr old flight mechanic on that plane, which he had repair INFLIGHT, DIY with nothing at hand. He taught me well. But critic's don't have a clue.
Perhaps you'll understand me better now.

 

[miroslav]

Rick...it was a simple question..."How far along are you really with your studio build?"

If that touched on some nerves and stirred up personal issues/difficulties that have impeded your studio build progress...
...again, that's not my doing.

You obviously took it the wrong way when I added/asked if the build was just a pastime...but honestly, you've talked about your studio and showed graphics many, many, many times, so I don't think it was all that much out of line to ask how far along you were or what your goals were for completion.
As you pointed out...you now have difficulty playing your guitar, so it's also not too out of place for me to suggest that time is of the essence. I'm no spring chicken either, and I too feel some sense of urgency to move forward...and yes, I too have my own personal hurdles. We all do and we all deal with them.

I was also puzzled when you said that you moved 12 times in 3 years, and wanted to ask how the heck did you move the studio or was it at it's own/same location throughout all those moves...but I saw that you were agitated by questions about your studio build...so I decided it wasn't that important, but I'll point out again that everyone here discusses each other's studio builds...it's the nature of this forum.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey miraslav, forget it. I'll just apologize and be done with it. Maybe this has something to do with my attitude. Trying to quit beer and cigs. ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR!

 

[somegeezer]

Hey miraslav, forget it. I'll just apologize and be done with it. Maybe this has something to do with my attitude. Trying to quit beer and cigs. ARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR!

Not at all to do with you being a dick? Drugs are not the problem, you are for bringing them into your life, in such a way that seems to allow you to act this way. Add that on top of all the problems with your life you seem to mention, I feel you're just looking for excuses, so people give you sympathy. Even though nobody ever asked.

Answer questions in a straight forward way and people will respect that. Don't bring up things we never asked for and start beating everyone over the head for not caring.

 

[theD1CKENS]

Sooooo.....



...howzabout those ceiling traps?