mshilarious
Banned
forget the "other" British guitarist from the Yardbirds, a bloke by the name of Jeff Beck.
Or the other other guitarist, Eric Clapton . . .
Or the other other guitarist, Eric Clapton . . .
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
I've been bored to tears by everything Clapton's done since the early 70's. It's too bad - I absolutely love his playing on the Howlin' Wolf London sessions (though, I may be one of maybe six fans worldwide of that material, haha), and that's probably the recordings that really ignited my love of blues (and, possibly, guitar - I remember something about the guitar sounds on that disc really moving me. My dad had this great Chess release, "Muddy and the Wolf" and while the Muddy Waters material was pretty forgettable, there was this incredible live version of "Long Distance Call" that closes his segment, and the Wolf was awesome...)
Anyway, I've taken to kind of pretending Clapton died 30 years ago along with Jimi, so I can ignore stuff like 461 Ocean Boulevard and pretend Clapton's this awesome blues player and not some aspiring pop songwriter, haha.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
Actually, I bet it'd work. I've got a couple tracks of Jack and an acoustic from some live radio program, and it's not half bad. And I've always loved some of his stripped down stuff - "I'm Lonely, But I Ain't That Lonely Yet" is one of my favorite White Stripes songs, and it's just Jack White and a piano.
mshilarious
Banned
The guitar would work, but the vocal is so ridiculous it'd be hard to keep from laughing.
mshilarious
Banned
Yeah, me too, except I'd go back a few (eight) years earlier
Just pointing that you can't ignore him if you're talking Yardbirds guitarists . . .Of which, Beck is the best, absolutely no contest.
Tadpui
Well-known member
One of my very favorite White Stripes songs is "Little Room" off of White Blood Cells. Just some smart lyrics set to a 4-on-the-floor drum beat for less than 2 minutes. It's such a good change of pace song on that album, and it's the first drum and vocal song that's entertained me since Tom Waits' "Pasties And A G-String" 
nate_dennis
Well-known member
I haven't communicated my points very well. Page and The Edge have both done a lot for guitar and rock music in general. I think Page today, is no better than he was at the height of Zep. The Edge's use of delay has really changed the way a lot of people approach guitar. But of the three, I find White the most compelling. It may well be that I connect with his music more. All three are good. They are all increadibly DIFFERNT players. I guess I just identify more with White's approach.
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soundchaser59
Reluctant Commander
But you won't give Page that same consideration..... double Jack's age and more than double the musical accomplishments. I was wondering why they chose Jack White to be the third wheel in that film.... One thing Page does not have is a big ego....
Not many guitarists will be better or more interesting at 65 or 70 than they were at 25 or 30, why expect that from Page?
The most telling scene in the whole movie is when Jack and Edge are watching Page play Whole Lotta Love.....watch how their facial expressions change and note what those faces mean. It's obvious that even they know they are watching a living legend.
DrewPeterson7
Sage of the Order
And, having not seen it, I suspect that there's a clear level of mutual respect for all players in it.
Really, any of the choices are pretty, well, odd. How do you narrow it down to just three players? Well, clearly they decided they wanted to try to get three generations of guitarists. So, someone from the classic rock days, someone from the next phase in the evolution of rock music, and someone contemporary. So, why Jimmy Page? Why not Eric Clapton, or Keith Richards? Both were just as successful in their own right, Clapton arguably invented the overdriven guitar sound (unless you want to attribute it entirely to Link Wray and his razor blade, in which case why not him?) and Richards the rock star swagger. And The Edge and U2 took their own unique spin on rock music, but you could say the same about Slash and GNR from the same period. And I do really enjoy Jack White's playing and writing and I think it has an attitude that's lacking from a lot of contemporary rock music, but the Smashing Pumpkins' Billy Corgan would have been an interesting pick too, or in a less known genre, Joe Satriani would have been fascinating to see here (all the more so because his last few albums have been, despite his unparalleled technical mastery, real throwbacks to 70's rock vibes.) Or hell, if you wanted someone more experimental and less technical, Tom Morello is a fascinating player who's also had a good mainstream following.
At the end of the day, every single player in that roster could be questioned - you expect that, any time you take three players you want to be representative of three generations of guitar. So the real question, I think, isn't why they picked any one, but rather if the three they DID pick make for an interesting story. And I think the answer is yes - I haven't gotten a chance to watch this yet (it's in the mail), but I'm looking forward to it.
mshilarious
Banned
The obvious reason to pick those three from each of their generations is they are all noted tinkerers, so you can fill up a movie with tinkering. I mean, Keef has pretty much the same sound since 1965. Why change perfection? Tune to G, dangle a cig from your lips, and rock! What else is there to say, really?
nate_dennis
Well-known member
You may well be right. I think I saw "ego" in the way he acts when he's playing. He just seems to be saying "look at me." But I'm not expert on body language and I don't know him so I can't say for sure.
They both definately know that they are watching a legand. And I think there is mutual respect. Like I said before, I probably overstated my case (as I have a tendancy to do.) All in all, I really enjoyed the film.
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soundchaser59
Reluctant Commander
It's way to easy to misinterpret.....I would not have concluded it was ego, I immediately assume he is playing with total conviction...."become the guitar" as if the fate of the cosmos hinges on the feeling put into every note.....one thing I really loved about watching all those painfully loud classic rock concerts, they all loved making that music and that sound, and they loved it on a note-by-note, minute-by-minute basis. What I dont like is the musicians who just stand there like Disney wax robots and look on the surface to be totally uninvolved and dispassionate....some because they might be afraid of appearing to have an ego problem. But I suppose that also is just as easy to misinterpret....
nate_dennis
Well-known member
Oh, I totally agree. I hate dissassociated players. I get made fun of all the time for my guitar faces and for my singing faces. But I can't help them.
mshilarious
Banned
I just pick the hottest chick's boyfriend and then I stare deeply into his eyes . . .
. . . since I play bass, no one has ever noticed
antichef
pornk rock
Actually, there was a scene with Page idolizing Link Wray (as the player who came in the generation before him, I suppose) - listening to - what else - Rumble on an LP. That was one of my favorite scenes.
Didn't he die recently? Bummer.
edit: oh yeah, Page playing utter fanboi air guitar to Rumble == no ego problem
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nate_dennis
Well-known member
Very good point. I retract all statements regarding Page and his ego.
Creamyapples1
www.murphycabs.com
You mean, to get that effected sound that he's looking for? You know, you may be onto something here.
Personally, I feel that most guitarists rely too heavily on strings. It's just whacky imo. How dare they take advantage of the resources available and make music with it.
/sarcasm off
I'll apologize now, but it had to be said.