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That's because you suck.
Yes I think you are right. Thank You for motivating me. After about 65 recordings with a click track my timing and overall sound is, I think, improving.
That's because you suck.
If that were the case, I would hire some studio players.Even if the result is a crappy sounding album and you're being payed $45k to produce a radio quality product?
If that were the case, I would hire some studio players.
On the other hand, if a band can't play to a click, let 'em play the way they feel most comfortable.
If that were the case, I would hire some studio players.
I ain't buying this "it's up to the artist" bs. It's an excuse for laziness.
As a drummer I play pretty much like a click because I've been playing with a click for 25+ years, so if I'm playing with say a bass player that can't play with a click how is he going to play with me? It's gonna be a struggle...
I think you're missing my point. Two examples:
Studio B: A drum circle group came in and wanted to have a CD they could sell at shows. Very limited budget. The "song" was 35 minutes long, consisting of varying drum rhythms and some chanting. I added some special effects and they were happy - no click track was ever suggested.
Studio A: Free Reign, a group made up of three Dallas Cowboys, came in and worked on the first three songs for their new album.
Using other musicians was not an option, and the record company wanted radio-friendly hits. So, a click track was absolutely necessary.
If someone is being paid to record me and he tells me I have to do something I don't want to do, I'm going to tell him to piss off.
Using other musicians was not an option, and the record company wanted radio-friendly hits. So, a click track was absolutely necessary.
I'm a human click track because I always play to a click track.
It's more up to the artist (and/or producer) than the engineer. That's for damn sure.
Harvey Gerst said:Using other musicians was not an option, and the record company wanted radio-friendly hits. So, a click track was absolutely necessary.
They, and their record company, wanted better recordings than they had done previously, so they came to us.IOW, why didn't you just let them play the way they were comfortable?
In no way would I ever even conceive that a click should be used on drum circle. No one would.
Actually, they're all pretty damn good musicians.I also wasn't talking about football players recording music, but you sort of made my point:
They, and their record company, wanted better recordings than they had done previously, so they came to us.
what label were you on?
Unless we're hired to "produce" the band, I'll only suggest that they try to play to a click. If they're having real problems playing to a click (and they're footing the bill), I'll recommend that they forget about trying to play to a click and just play.
They, and their record company, wanted better recordings than they had done previously, so they came to us.
We're in different worlds EZ. I paly jazz. All I care about is getting good at my craft. I am content to be a professional sideman. I have had some success, been on TV and radio a few times. So what. Until I play like Ray Brown I'm not happy, nor would I brag.
I had to look up who Andy Wallace is. I don't listen to any of the bands he produces. Including yours I'm sure.
Yes, to record and produce their new album. I mean, our studio; my son Alex is their producer, not me.Came to you to what? Produce their record?