Is this metal sound good?

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I listening on my pc speakers (Klipsch) and the guitars need to be louder, from what Im hearing through them. And the reproduce stuff pretty good for pc speakers (loud as hell).
 
it's a pretty heavy sound alright :)

maybe my terminology isnt' correct, but i'm not hearing a lot of definition on the guitars. that is the guitar sound isn't well described. maybe that's what people mean by muddy guitars?
 
Turn the cymbals down, pan the hat and ride.

Add some high end to the kick to get more definition out of it.

Pick a snare sound that has more crack to it.

The guitars are not in your face enough. Are there two rhythm tracks? If there is a reverb on the guitars, get rid of it. You need dry raw guitars that have a lot of definition, your guitars are transparent and washy.
 
BushmasterM4 said:
I listening on my pc speakers (Klipsch) and the guitars need to be louder, from what Im hearing through them. And the reproduce stuff pretty good for pc speakers (loud as hell).
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Thanks for listening. :) There's one vote for guitars turned up.
 
Nicole_Rose said:
it's a pretty heavy sound alright :)

maybe my terminology isnt' correct, but i'm not hearing a lot of definition on the guitars. that is the guitar sound isn't well described. maybe that's what people mean by muddy guitars?
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Nicole, Thanks for listening. :)

OK, guitars need more definition. That's good. Have been working on it so much that it sounds the same anymore.
 
Farview said:
Turn the cymbals down, pan the hat and ride.

Add some high end to the kick to get more definition out of it.

Pick a snare sound that has more crack to it.

The guitars are not in your face enough. Are there two rhythm tracks? If there is a reverb on the guitars, get rid of it. You need dry raw guitars that have a lot of definition, your guitars are transparent and washy.
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Farview, thanks for listening. :)

I see about turning cymbals down, panning hat and ride. This is the only snare sound that's available. Will try to EQ it up around 7kHz.

Gits are verb'd. Will remove verb. So should metal guitar not be verb'd when it's this fast and heavy? Should the overall track be slightly verb'd if at all?

Raise the gits, and EQ up around 4kHz?

Vox haven't been added yet.
 
bigbubba said:
Nicole, Thanks for listening. :)

OK, guitars need more definition. That's good. Have been working on it so much that it sounds the same anymore.
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i get that too. i find after a while i have to leave it for a while and let my ears rest :)
 
bigbubba said:
Farview, thanks for listening. :)

I see about turning cymbals down, panning hat and ride. This is the only snare sound that's available. Will try to EQ it up around 7kHz.
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Try somewhere in the 3k to 5k range.

bigbubba said:
Gits are verb'd. Will remove verb. So should metal guitar not be verb'd when it's this fast and heavy? Should the overall track be slightly verb'd if at all?
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Modern heavy music doesn't have a lot of reverb on it at all. It's normally just on the vocal and the drums. It's also very small and tight. The more verb you put on, the farther away things sound. It also washes out and muddies up the mix. Add too much reverb and it will sound like the 80's and it will never get loud enough.

bigbubba said:
Raise the gits, and EQ up around 4kHz?
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Once you take the verb off, you migh just need some high shelf around 8k or 10k.
 
Nicole_Rose said:
i get that too. i find after a while i have to leave it for a while and let my ears rest :)
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Will go EQ some stuff.

Nicole, been meaning to post in your thread. Heard some of your songs, and got lazy before posting. :) Well, you definitely playing guitar and sing for sure. From the picture it appears you have a drum kits. Not sure if you do real drums or not, but that's what people tell me sounds like soul-less part of most of the tracks I do. :)

You got good songs and good music. :) I'll swing by one day and post in yer thread also. :) No, don't give up.
 
You've done a ton of work on the drums and guitar - very complex and a nice metal arrangement. I agree about the guitar not having enough presence. It sounds like I sitting too close to the drummer on stage....Lots of excellent ideas from Farview. I'll follow up on this later.... Sounding good so far though...:cool:
 
ido1957 said:
You've done a ton of work on the drums and guitar - very complex and a nice metal arrangement. I agree about the guitar not having enough presence. It sounds like I sitting too close to the drummer on stage....Lots of excellent ideas from Farview. I'll follow up on this later.... Sounding good so far though...:cool:
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Ido, thanks for listening. :) I have fixed the guitar to be higher. When you're working on the drums sounding nice, I guess you want the world to be able to hear them. :)
 
I'd bring the guitars up even more, and give them a high shelf boost at around 10k. Especially the lead parts. Don't be afraid to pan them even more. The snare needs some more snap. I suggest compressing it with a fairly quick attack (around 10-15 ms) and use a high-ish ratio with a low threshold, then bring the gain up. This lets the transient come through a bit more. Experiment with those settings and see what works best with that snare.

As far as the arrangement goes, there are a couple parts where you're only using one of the guitars for rhythm and it's panned left. It sounds a tad awkward only coming from the left. For those parts, I'd use pan automation to bring it center. But if you like it as is, then that's entirely your call. Nice song, though, I have no criticism for the composition.
 
Very nice, it does sound heavy. My only nit:

in the softer section its too soft. It sounds artificial, like one can hear the fader pulling the volume down. Other than that, it rocks.:D
 
Nicole - Thanks. :)

VSpaceBoy - Thanks for listening and commenting. :) Much appreciated. Sheen meaning some kind of exciter on the master or something?

ido1957 - Thanks again. :)

IronFlippy - Thanks for listening and commenting. :) Much appreciated. The rhythm section in the later half is one using one guitar. I have added the second guitar. Now there should always be a guitar in each panned section. Will try panning even more. Thanks for the suggestions. Will try those in the next mixdown I do soon.

DavidK - Thanks for listeninga and commenting. :) Much apprciated. How perceptive. The fader is pulled down by 3 dbs. However that is supposed to be where the verse is so I figured it kind of stops for the verse start and then kicks off again. The vox are not in yet.
 
BB,
Is good. davidK's suggestion is accurate.
I like the guitar sound you have - but then I don't know modern metal from text messaging.
 
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