About Steinberg Nuendo 2.0

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I 've had nuendo for about a year and I'm steady learning new thing s to do but it seems I am getting nowhere when it comes to vocal recording, can anyone explain any (time saving) techniques i can use ?







shure ksm 27
M-audio preamp (crappy)
 
What part of your outdated version of Nuendo is giving you trouble recording vocals?

I set up a mic, hit record and have the vocalist perform. When he gets it right, I save that one. It isn't any more complicated than that.
 
You should of taken the $1600 you spent on Nuendo and gotten Reaper, a real mic, and a real preamp. You wasted a lot of money on software you don't need.
 
NL5 said:
You should of taken the $1600 you spent on Nuendo and gotten Reaper, a real mic, and a real preamp. You wasted a lot of money on software you don't need.
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Jeez I dunno....was this intended to be advice or were you just attempting to punish the poster.

This forum could do well to have more discussions about music and recording and techniques and advice. I'm sure the illsteel didn't take the time to post in the hopes of being insulted.

That said it's foolhearty to think one can't do great recordings with the equipment illsteel has listed.
 
Joseph Hanna said:
Jeez I dunno....was this intended to be advice or were you just attempting to punish the poster.

This forum could do well to have more discussions about music and recording and techniques and advice. I'm sure the illsteel didn't take the time to post in the hopes of being insulted.

That said it's foolhearty to think one can't do great recordings with the equipment illsteel has listed.
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I aplogize if I came off a bit harsh, but I've become jaded by the constant posting of the same question. To paraphrase, "I stole this really expensive software, but my recordings still aren't very good. How come?"

First, the daw app has nothing to do with it, and if it's not Nuendo, then they are asking about waves plugins.

As far as his gear, I was just trying to make a point. However, when it comes to vocals the mic is king. Period. A great preamp will help make it shine.

And for the record, his question was "about nuendo"
 
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illsteele said:
I 've had nuendo for about a year and I'm steady learning new thing s to do but it seems I am getting nowhere when it comes to vocal recording, can anyone explain any (time saving) techniques i can use ?







shure ksm 27
M-audio preamp (crappy)
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Time saving???? Ummm how bout write shorter songs.
 
ok

first off, I didnt steal nuendo !!!! i think you got confused with my question , I have plugins(waves,platinum,diamond and gold bundle) , but plugins make my vocals sound too computerized,so I dont use them cause I want a more natural sounding audio, i keep it simple eq,compression,noise gate ,etc.....


(but Im tired of this process )

is there a better technique other than upgrading ?
 
NL5 said:
I aplogize if I came off a bit harsh, but I've become jaded by the constant posting of the same question. To paraphrase, "I stole this really expensive software, but my recordings still aren't very good. How come?"

First, the daw app has nothing to do with it, and if it's not Nuendo, then they are asking about waves plugins.
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This is only slightly less awesome than the gear the OP lists even further down the thread :)
 
NL5 said:
I aplogize if I came off a bit harsh, but I've become jaded by the constant posting of the same question. To paraphrase, "I stole this really expensive software, but my recordings still aren't very good. How come?"

First, the daw app has nothing to do with it, and if it's not Nuendo, then they are asking about waves plugins.

As far as his gear, I was just trying to make a point. However, when it comes to vocals the mic is king. Period. A great preamp will help make it shine.

And for the record, his question was "about nuendo"
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Hahahahaha Two thumbs wayyyyyyy up!
 
Illsteele - did you get Nuendo for broadcast audio-post work or for music? It seems a little extravagant buying Nuendo just for music work, when you could get Cubase which is much cheaper. Still, your money I guess...

Plus those Waves plug-ins would've cost a fortune. It's a shame they make your vocals sound too 'computerized'. I've used cheap bundled plug-ins on my vocals and they don't sound 'computerized' at all. More money wasted!

I find it difficult to believe you're not using cracked software, with you having $1300 software but asking for 'time-saving' techniques (?!), and complaining that Waves make your vocals sound 'computerized'. If you'd actually bought the Waves plug-ins, then I think you'd be using better terminology than 'computerized' when describing Waves' perceived shortcomings - plus you'd actually know how to use them effectively.
 
Well you have $7000 worth of software there and about $600 invested in your mic, pre, and interface.

Buy a new mic a new preamp and a new interface. That will save you lots of time, because you wont be recording on crap.
 
illsteele said:
first off, I didnt steal nuendo !!!! i think you got confused with my question , I have plugins(waves,platinum,diamond and gold bundle) is there a better technique other than upgrading ?
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I don't ubderstand what a 23-yr-old is doing with over $5000 worth of advanced software that he didn't steal (much of it redundant, BTW; there's no need for all three Waves bundles), but he doesn't even know enough about it to understand that his software has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of his vocals.

He shoulda stole himself a $3000 microphone and a $3000 preamp instead of all that fancy and (to him) useless software, and then broken into Ethan's shop and stole a whole bunch of bass traps and diffusers that he could install into the live space in which he was illegally squatting. Then he could kidnap someone who knew how to actually use all that stuff (because he took the time to learn and practice his craft), and threaten to kill him if he didn't make his recordings for him.

Then he'd be able to make good vocal recordings quickly and easily without having to spend a dime on anything.

G.
 
Sounds like the people here are bitter about software getting stolen. :D

Best thread ever!

And to be honest, with the KSM27, pretty much any preamp (that didn't cost 4 dollars and is installed in a consumer soundcard :p), you should be able to get passable results with all that gear.

Perhaps post a clip so we can hear what you're talking about? The problem with recording is that it isn't a magical black box that you throw frequencies at on one end, and out the other end comes professional-sounding material, even if the original music was bad.

Not to be harsh (as we all are in this thread, as of this post, due to the fact that it looks like you hosed the software industry with lots of illegal freebies), but you may just not like your own voice. All the processing in the world is only going to make you sound a little better than you do now, and the stuff that makes those improvements takes time to learn and use, and even then its all a bandaid over a gaping gunshot wound.

Advice time!

I suppose you could try a different mic, a different mic pre, but in the end, you should be at least marginally happy with the recording of your own voice, with no processing or effects, and it seems with that mic, and maybe a better interface to the computer, you should be able to pull it off. When I record material, the vocal track usually gets light compression, maybe some reverb if I think it is called for, and that's it. I don't have a great voice, but its passable for what I want to do, so I'm content with it - without using pitch correction, depth enhancers, stereo spacing plugs, echo, reverb, chorus, etc etc
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
He shoulda stole himself a $3000 microphone and a $3000 preamp instead of all that fancy and (to him) useless software, and then broken into Ethan's shop and stole a whole bunch of bass traps and diffusers that he could install into the live space in which he was illegally squatting.
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Hell... stack some mattresses in the corner of a room, place that 300 dollar mic facing outward, run it into a Firebox (with Cubase LE), and hit record. I think you'd get more than passable results. There's either something we're missing here, or he has a terrible voice, and thought that software would fix it.

It amazes me that people really believe (to an extent), what can be seen in the video for the Ben Folds song "Rockin The Suburbs", where Weird Al (playing Ben's producer/engineer), is in the control room of the recording studio, everything sounds like shit, so he pulls down the "Suck" fader, slides up the "Rocks" fader, and it fades to awesome :D

No mallace toward the OP tho - everyone here is just trying to get passable results. It just seems suspect that with all that software, you are not even getting marginal resutls - the results are quite bad, apparently.

How is the mic going into the computer? Is the MAudio Preamp also the interface, and if so, what model is it? If not, what interface are you using?
 
cusebassman said:
Hell... stack some mattresses in the corner of a room, place that 300 dollar mic facing outward, run it into a Firebox (with Cubase LE), and hit record. I think you'd get more than passable results.
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Exactly...if one knew what they were doing.

The fact is, whether he stole the software or bought it legitimately doesn't even matter. Someone having several thousand dollars worth of software - apparenly for a few years now, if he bought it, since Nuendo 2.0 is a rather old version - should know better than to even ask the question he asked. It's like someone saying they owned a black market F-18 jet fighter and they didn't understand why whenever they wanted to fly it to Dallas, they wound up in Dublin instead, and maybe an upgrade to an F-22 Raptor would make the flight easier.

And you're right, he could do it just as well with a Piper Cherokee if he actually knew how to fly.

G.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
Exactly...if one knew what they were doing.

The fact is, whether he stole the software or bought it legitimately doesn't even matter. Someone having several thousand dollars worth of software - apparenly for a few years now, if he bought it, since Nuendo 2.0 is a rather old version - should know better than to even ask the question he asked. It's like someone saying they owned a black market F-18 jet fighter and they didn't understand why whenever they wanted to fly it to Dallas, they wound up in Dublin instead, and maybe an upgrade to an F-22 Raptor would make the flight easier.

And you're right, he could do it just as well with a Piper Cherokee if he actually knew how to fly.

G.
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Very nice metaphor, I like.

The rest of my little rant here isn't completely directed at this thread, but it really amazes me how impatient people are. Perhaps its always been like this, but as I am still a young'n, I don't know what the recording industry was like before the advent of home studio technology - however, it seems that nowadays, since quality recording gear is available at moderate prices, people really get this idea in their heads that if they throw enough money at recording, they will get professional results without learning anything.

Yeah, its the classic rant about the pitfalls of home recording... and its been bitched about to death. But I'm gonna make my own complaints, dammit! I started off with the typical Tascam cassette multitrackers when I was 14 years old, and had some Radio Shack dynamics. Its only within the last couple years (since I started working), that I was able to afford fancy toys. In that time, I have been making small upgrades and learning to use them.

Just starting out with a full software package you might find in a professional studio is ridiculous - it is going to take you far longer to learn the same skills with all that extra stuff in your face, than it would have had you started out simple - decent mic, interface, and simple software (Reaper, for instance :D)

How you could justify spending that much money on software when you don't know what the Hell you're doing is beyond me. Of course, we don't know if it was really purchased or not, but that is an argument for the massive "Do you buy that fancy softwsre" thread... which is an entertaining read, because even those of us who didn't write the software or distribute it get [I/]really[/I] annoyed at those who rip it off. Probably because we earn the money we spend on it, and they go off and natch it up without any effort.[/rant]
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
It's like someone saying they owned a black market F-18 jet fighter and they didn't understand why whenever they wanted to fly it to Dallas, they wound up in Dublin instead

G.
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Maybe cause the Craics Great!
 
johnnypraze said:
Well you have $7000 worth of software there and about $600 invested in your mic, pre, and interface.

Buy a new mic a new preamp and a new interface. That will save you lots of time, because you wont be recording on crap.
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I agree 100%.

I kinda thought his username was a tongue-in-cheek joke, and now think the whole post is a joke.
 
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