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kcearl said:
1. because the software costs $ and can be used over and over again whereas the guy costs $$$ and has to get $$$ each time


2.i dont need a perfectly finished copy to post on soundclick/myspace/reverbnation/facebook or the MP3 clinic...


3.i like to write songs or tunes for my own amusement...if someone was to say to me "thats great, someone would buy that" then Id track properly in a studio and pay an engineer..
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This is really the market niche they're shooting for. I don't know too many pro engineers who will mix everything you throw at them for a flat one-time $69 fee. If you're recording music because you think making songs is fun, you're probably not so hung up on the quality of the mix, and you're probably not expecting to sell a whole bunch of them. If it's just for personal enjoyment, what's the harm?
 
kcearl said:
damn I opened it :)


1. because the software costs $ and can be used over and over again whereas the guy costs $$$ and has to get $$$ each time


2.i dont need a perfectly finished copy to post on soundclick/myspace/reverbnation/facebook or the MP3 clinic...


3.i like to write songs or tunes for my own amusement...if someone was to say to me "thats great, someone would buy that" then Id track properly in a studio and pay an engineer..

I take my bikes on racetracks...I have no wish to ever race Rossi...I dont even race the other guys...I improve my times...
I snowboard down steeper peaks each season..I have no intention of being in the X games or making a snowboarding film...
I knit sweaters of ever increasing thickness....I dont even live somewhere cold!

Thats only my perspective on this hobby which is one of a few I have...I might not even be doing this in 6 months..i might run out of brilliant drum patterns :D
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I understand your point but Glen's point is valid too. If you desire to be proficient at being an audio engineer then all these short cuts are not good. It's kinda along the same lines as why peeps working the cash register can't count change on their own. They depend too much on gadgets. Can someone do the car analogy on this?:laughings:
 
XLR said:
And I'm gonna ring up David to do it as a collab.
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At which point you'll realize what a waste it was to even bother getting, let alone learning to use, Hair-Ball and auto-mix, even if it is only one click. When you have David working with you, software like that will seem laughable.

Drew: don't ask yourself what's wrong about it, ask yourself what's right about it. You might find a different set of answers.

G.
 
NYMorningstar said:
I understand your point but Glen's point is valid too. If you desire to be proficient at being an audio engineer then all these short cuts are not good. It's kinda along the same lines as why peeps working the cash register can't count change on their own. They depend too much on gadgets. Can someone do the car analogy on this?:laughings:
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Yeah, but I think that's the point - there are a whole slew of hobbyists who want to make music, but have no interest in the technical details - they DON'T want to be audio engineers.

A lot of them also have no serious delusions of commercial success, and just want to quickly, cheaply, and easily make something that doesn't sound too bad.

Much like Garage Band, this is a perfect product for that, even if anyone who really cared to learn how to mix would never use it.
 
SouthSIDE Glen said:
At which point you'll realize what a waste it was to even bother getting, let alone learning to use, Hair-Ball and auto-mix, even if it is only one click. When you have David working with you, software like that will seem laughable.
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At this point, words fail me. :eek:
 
Some of you guys seem so threatened by a dopey mixing app, and take yourselves so seriously, that you have absolutely no sense of humor. So, as we cannot communicate effectively, I withdraw.
 
DrewPeterson7 said:
A lot of them also have no serious delusions of commercial success, and just want to quickly, cheaply, and easily make something that doesn't sound too bad.
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A lot of them do have delusions though and these products also have the potential of holding them back.
 
moresound said:
Now KC that would be sad....:(



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you havent heard my songs?? :laughings:

Ive always had a guitar to tinker on and that did me for 20 odd years....this is a bit expensive and time consuming...as soon as its a chore then it'll stop Im afraid


DrewPeterson7 said:
This is really the market niche they're shooting for. I don't know too many pro engineers who will mix everything you throw at them for a flat one-time $69 fee. If you're recording music because you think making songs is fun, you're probably not so hung up on the quality of the mix, and you're probably not expecting to sell a whole bunch of them. If it's just for personal enjoyment, what's the harm?
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eggsactly...I try most things on demo and will go the harder route if it sounds better...I dont think EZmix is for me as Ive actually learned quite a lot

But I dont work and Ive probably crammed into a year what takes most hobbiests double that

this would be great for someone to get there ideas down quick...its not that different from some channel vst with presets..it just has less flexibility and quality traded off

NYMorningstar said:
I understand your point but Glen's point is valid too. If you desire to be proficient at being an audio engineer then all these short cuts are not good. It's kinda along the same lines as why peeps working the cash register can't count change on their own. They depend too much on gadgets. Can someone do the car analogy on this?:laughings:
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yup i do get what he says, the ideal is prolly somewhere in the middle imo...but Id still like to hear the car analogy...we've had bikes, snowboards and knitting :)
 
Here is a chicken farming analogy....who came first the chicken or the rooster?
Who cares as long as they both had fun.:D



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Chibi Nappa said:
No. And most people can't.
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well i am superior to most people, and can.

Chibi Nappa said:
But take the guy who is writing, playing, tracking and working 40 hrs a week. What is the most he will get out of software like this (and Ozone, and Harbal, and...)? He will get false hope, spin his wheels, and waste his time for a bland result.
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first of all, you don't know what kind of result he will get. secondly, maybe he just wants to get something useable from the tracks he laid down without the hassle of mixing it. perhaps to show potential bandmates of how the song might sound.

SouthSIDE Glen said:
It would seem to me that software that claims to do your hobby for you would suck all the fun out of it quicker than anything else.
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the hobby is writing and recording songs, not getting a stellar engineering and mixing masterpiecce.

do you even play music? serious question. i know you work on the production side of it, but i have no idea if you possess the talent to play an instrument, let alone write a song.
 
Nicely done, HMHS.


HMHS review said:
EZMix is a liberating and at the same time frustrating product. It's a product that will be perfect for some and will drive others crazy with it's limitations...
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Well written review.

Imagine that. Somebody posting who has actual hands-on experience with it.
 
XLR said:
OK that does it.

Even though I almost never use broadband compression or even EQ, I'm gonna buy this sucker and use it just to piss you dopes off.:D And, even better, I'm going to use it to mix a classical ensemble. It'll be phat and in your face.

I'm buying Har Bal too.
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Count me in! I wanna phat with you!
 
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for SSG, just so it don't get lost:

ez_willis said:
do you even play music? serious question. i know you work on the production side of it, but i have no idea if you possess the talent to play an instrument, let alone write a song.
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