www.loudcds.com? is this for real?

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Under the "I'm ready, HOW??" section he mentions he will accept payment via PayPal at "business@crizman.com". You know you gotta check out www.crizman.com !! :eek:
 
I have to ask then if software companies like waves and digidesign and t-racks sell cheap software labeled "audio recording/mixing/MASTERING software" is it not really mastering software? Maybe the software manufacturer should be to blame for selling a product that tells the average 15 year old he can master audio by using their product. You can buy ProTools MBOX for $349.00 at Guitar Center and on the box it says "audio recording/editing/mastering software". If I buy that Mbox can I now claim that I own a professional recording/mixing/mastering studio? If it's not true how can they promote a product like that?
 
ratnip101 said:
If I buy that Mbox can I now claim that I own a professional recording/mixing/mastering studio? If it's not true how can they promote a product like that?
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I think the key word here is "professional".

Lying awake in bed last night, I realized my website will be an interesting social experiment: the missing ingredient was contact info. However, that's readily available via whois.

Thus, the experiment: are there people out there unable to normalize and limit their own recordings, but savvy enough to use whois? Time will tell :rolleyes:
 
HangDawg said:
So ummm where do we send the material. :confused:
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no doubt Detective Southside G will be on the job shortly to give us the full rundown on this new site :-)
 
gullfo said:
what are you going to do when people start sending you CDs and money? :-)
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Is that an ethical question? ;)

I know it's bad to laugh at your own jokes, but every time I read this part, I crack myself up:

Naiant Studio said:
Our pristine all-digital signal path preserves the integrity of your recording; free from unnecessary analog conversion processes, your pure sound is preserved and enhanced solely in the digital domain.
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Man, I'm gonna send mshilarious all my $9.95 first, then find the music I need mastered. I trust him, honest. Now, where do i send it again?????
 
Dogman said:
Man, I'm gonna send mshilarious all my $9.95 first, then find the music I need mastered. I trust him, honest. Now, where do i send it again?????
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Ahem . . . that's $103.45 . . . 10 song minimum plus $3.95 shipping :D
 
I can't beleive people just keep falling for this. :D


Looks like Bob Ludwig, Bob Katz, Joe Gastwirt and the hard working ME's in this forum have serious competition!
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
Funny -- the EXACT same question was going through my head ever since the topic came up!

The answer probably is similar to why people buy cheap gear expecting it to perform like the expensive stuff? Probably because they don't understand the fundamental theory behind good recording technique -- it's much easier to shell out a few dollars on cheap gear and beleive the hype than it is to try and understand/learn the theory.

Same with mastering -- they don't understand the process, so they buy into some scammer's hype that $10 mastering is good enough and that technology can cover-off what once required talent!
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Very true Bruce!

It's not the price that concerns me, people can charge what they like. It's the fact that services like these give mastering a bad name. Mastering has always been considered somewhat "mysterious". Some people are taking advantage of that and other misconceptions. I truely hope that people don't get the impression that services like these are what mastering is all about, any more than a Radio Shack mic is the best any microphone will ever sound.
 
gullfo said:
no doubt Detective Southside G will be on the job shortly to give us the full rundown on this new site :-)
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I had my computer run an automated overnight check using presets on niaint.com. Here's what it found...

niaint,com comes back as registered to an Inuit eskimo recording studio called "Whale Blubber Recording" located just outside of Point Barrow, Alaska.

No contact information is provided because they have no reliable phone service up there. All messaging and deliveries are made via dogsled.

Aerial photography of the location shows a huge complex of soundstage-like buildings resembling the old Warner Brothers studios, except all the buildings are made of blocks of ice with a big smokey chimney in the center.

The higher-resolution photographs from Google Earth show a steady stream of dogsleds ferrying out pallate-loads of CDs from the main building and one oversized dogsled carrying inbound crates variously labeled "AMS Neve", "Cray, Inc.", and "Hosa Technologies."

There are several web references to WBR, all of them say pretty much the same thing: Whale Blubber Recording is a top-notch, world class facility who can offer their product at cut rate prices because they have really cut corners on their cabling.

That combined with the fact that the engineers have a hard time working the knobs on the gear because they're wearing seal fur gloves all the time, and the product comes out sounding like crap.

But it's mostly the cabling.

Sorry for the sketchy information, gang, but it was after all just an automated search I did using preset search values. I could spend $15 and get some real information manually, but I'd rather give my money to Masquerading By Mail.

G.
 
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SouthSIDE Glen said:
I had my computer run an automated overnight check on niaint.com. Here's what it found...

niaint,com comes back as registered to an Inuit eskimo recording studio called "Whale Blubber Recording" located just outside of Point Barrow, Alaska.

No contact information is provided because they have no reliable phone service up there. All messaging and deliveries are made via dogsled.
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It's all true :(

Except my dog died back in Feb. :(

http://www.fotolog.net/bucketfullolove/
 
mshilarious said:
Ahem . . . that's $103.45 . . . 10 song minimum plus $3.95 shipping :D
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You'll take a personal check, right?????...Or, are there LOW intrest payment options???.....Better yet....10% of all revenues earned from the mastered tracks??? :D
 
well, I think I may just buy the damn protools with t-racks and see what I can do with my own music because I just don't know where to go now. Even more confused.
 
ratnip101 said:
well, I think I may just buy the damn protools with t-racks and see what I can do with my own music because I just don't know where to go now. Even more confused.
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Why's that -- it's pretty clear... if it's too good to be true, then it probably is........... what part of "you get what you pay for" is confusing?????
 
ratnip101 said:
well, I think I may just buy the damn protools with t-racks and see what I can do with my own music because I just don't know where to go now. Even more confused.
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Hey, I'll tell you what, I'll master your CD for free if you let me put the before & after on my website, plus I'll post 'em here so everybody can give their honest, no holds barred opinion, of my mastering job :)
 
ratnip101 said:
well, I think I may just buy the damn protools with t-racks and see what I can do with my own music because I just don't know where to go now. Even more confused.
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Seriously? Look into better mastering. There are multiple frequent posters here with "Mastering" in their screenname - one about 8 posts up - consider them.
 
ratnip101 said:
well, I think I may just buy the damn protools with t-racks and see what I can do with my own music because I just don't know where to go now. Even more confused.
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For the price of both you could probably have three different CDs mastered by John or I. It just doesn't seem to make cost effective sense.

We both use gear, that quite frankly surpasses t-racks. Just one of our EQs alone costs more than the list mentioned above. But it isn't just about gear, experience and skill are paramount. Trying to master on low end gear, with monitors that can't handle 20-20K in frequency range and in a room that isn't setup well is just asking for frustration. Look through the many threads here of issues with self-mastering to see what I'm talking about.
 
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