would anybody be interested in a CD comparing budget ldcs' on vox?

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I would like to know if a cd like this would be of any use to anyone.

I am thinking five different voices soloed and one or two in a full mix, and also maybe test them on acoustic as well just for the heck of it.

I would like to know if this is something people would be interested in. It would be delivered on two cd, one containing the Cd audio and one with 24/48khz wav files.

I'll have the files dry and duplicated with some compression, high eq and reverb.

The currents suspects are the most popular mics all under $250

marshal v67
Studio projects C1
Audio Technica 3035
Nady series
definitely a shure sm58 for comparison
maybe a shure ksm27
maybe one of those SE mics for the heck of it(even though I doubt anybody buys them

I'll also throw in a blueberry, 4033 and maybe a Neumann tlm103 for comparo. I'll probably track through both a tube pre and a solid state pre.

What I'd like to know:

-what other mics should I throw into the group
-would you pay $10 for the CD?
-should I use a high end converter/clock chain(lucid/lucid) or should I use a homerecording chain(delta 1010) that most project buyers would use anyway?
-how do I break into the international marketspace and how do I penetrate potentially inflationary economies (just kidding)


I'll like to get some feedback on this. Im thinking about buying these mics in august instead of a distressor as previously planned. Im just tired of all the hearsay associated with budget mics

The only problem I foresee is how I would keep my bias towards the at 3035 out of the testing.

Feedback would be appreciated.

Funk on!
 
Jeez, I can't believe you got no response! Yes, I'd be interested enough to shell out ten bux. Not sure about the converter question. On one hand, the home reccer chain's going to reflect what most of us have. OTOH, higher quality converters might give a truer picture of the mics' sonic character. Get a more qualified answer to that one.
-kent
 
great idea, but isn't there already a comparison CD like that around?
 
JFogarty said:
great idea, but isn't there already a comparison CD like that around?
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I dont think there is one comparing low budget condensers.
 
"I'll like to get some feedback on this. "


I wouldnt want to listen to feedback squealing on a CD.
 
I would like one if you did everything without EQ or Compression, at least on the files CD. Other mics I'd like to hear are MXL 2001, 57, and if at all possible a U87.
 
darrin_h2000 said:
"I'll like to get some feedback on this. "


I wouldnt want to listen to feedback squealing on a CD.
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very funny
 
Blake Long said:
I would like one if you did everything without EQ or Compression, at least on the files CD. Other mics I'd like to hear are MXL 2001, 57, and if at all possible a U87.
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Yes, I dont know how I'll get a u87 but it WILL be cool to have one on there just because it makes such a suitable reference point. I was thinking about getting one of those for personal use. I would have to borrow all the other mics if that happened.
 
If you didnt keep you location a secret, some of us can come help you gather up the mics and pres.
 
Cyan, to make a reasonable representation of these microphones sounds
like a lot of work-hats off to your if you do it!
IMHO, however, the CD would be more accurate by making sure of these
4 basic things;

1) Singers (& acoustic guitarist's) with strong enough technique to
make consistant takes. You may want to use classically trained
and/or acapella vocalists as a result for the singing.

2) Use a "good" room with natural reverb & NO effects processing

3) Use a typical (decent) "non-tube" mic pre

4) Have a expert engineer set up proper microphone placement.

Chris

P.S. There are so many variables in mixing, you may want to nix
further instrumentation to keep better focus.
 
I hope your bias is right:)

Just ordered a 3035. If it sounds as good as you say It will be a killer deal.




F.S.
 
CyanJaguar said:
I'll also throw in a blueberry, 4033 and maybe a Neumann tlm103 for comparo.

Feedback would be appreciated.
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Shouldn't you include the NTK or NT1000 in that group?
 
While your at it shouldn't you throw in an ecm8000?? :) j/k

I think this is a good idea but I see one huge problem. You are trying to sell this cd to people who might buy a mic on a 10 dollar difference. I mean these people are really wanting to record but they are trying to figure out whether they want to buy an sm58 for $79 because they read it will always produce decent results and is versatile, or do they want to go for an MxlV67 and break their mic budget. So the problem is that to a person that is buying mics on a budget $10 is of great value to them. Cuz if they hadn't bought your CD they would be $10 closer to that V67. Maybe you could look at selling it to a website or to a magazine about homerecording. Because selling to a buyer might be tough. But you could put it on mp3.com and let people hear a few samples and then if they are interested buy it. I would think that would be your best bet.

Good idea, but hard to market to the target market
Beezoboy
 
Beezoboy said:
While your at it shouldn't you throw in an ecm8000?? :) j/k

I think this is a good idea but I see one huge problem. You are trying to sell this cd to people who might buy a mic on a 10 dollar difference. I mean these people are really wanting to record but they are trying to figure out whether they want to buy an sm58 for $79 because they read it will always produce decent results and is versatile, or do they want to go for an MxlV67 and break their mic budget. So the problem is that to a person that is buying mics on a budget $10 is of great value to them. Cuz if they hadn't bought your CD they would be $10 closer to that V67. Maybe you could look at selling it to a website or to a magazine about homerecording. Because selling to a buyer might be tough. But you could put it on mp3.com and let people hear a few samples and then if they are interested buy it. I would think that would be your best bet.

Good idea, but hard to market to the target market
Beezoboy
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Very good. I think you would make a good MBA.

that's why I did the research to find the level of interest, but there is hardly any interest, so the plans would probably end up being scrapped. Something about the NPV being less than zero.
 
Ok I figured it out. In a another thread (the one about tube mics) I suggested that Mr Gerst write a book on recording. Well when he writed the book you make a deal to get your CD put in the back of the book. Your chances of success would be very, very good then. Maybe you should talk to him, even though he never agreed to write the book! :)

Beezoboy
 
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