Will this damage my electric drumkit?

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grimtraveller said:
I saw this documentary once about women taking revenge on their cheating husbands/boyfriends/partners. There was one woman who, when her husband traded her in for a younger model, pretended she was OK with it and invited him around for an amicable meal. And she cooked dogshit pie. And she says he ate it and didn't know anything was amiss. So it would appear that you probably can polish a turd......
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A good musician can play a shit instrument and make it sound great. Shit musicians can play a great instrument or a shitty instrument and it will sound like shit.
Good musicians usually only choose to play really good instruments and shitty musicians satisfy themselves that they can play crappy instruments and make them sound great because they once heard this great musician do it.
You guys are all jealous that this guy has a great bass. My bass player plays a Warwick that he got on sale for about $1500. He can make any bass sound good, but he loves his Warwick.
 
grimtraveller said:
I saw this documentary once about women taking revenge on their cheating husbands/boyfriends/partners. There was one woman who, when her husband traded her in for a younger model, pretended she was OK with it and invited him around for an amicable meal. And she cooked dogshit pie. And she says he ate it and didn't know anything was amiss. So it would appear that you probably can polish a turd......
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Tu shea!
About the Jeff Beck thing, thats a guitar going through a distorted amp. Plus if he played it clean/finger-picking, you could probably tell the difference.

You could hook up any bass guitar to a rat pedal, and they will all sound the same too. Its about the clean signal, which is what most basses are about.
 
Rimshot said:
A good musician can play a shit instrument and make it sound great. Shit musicians can play a great instrument or a shitty instrument and it will sound like shit.
Good musicians usually only choose to play really good instruments and shitty musicians satisfy themselves that they can play crappy instruments and make them sound great because they once heard this great musician do it.
You guys are all jealous that this guy has a great bass. My bass player plays a Warwick that he got on sale for about $1500. He can make any bass sound good, but he loves his Warwick.
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Thanks. There is a serious difference between slapping/popping a cheap bass to an expensive one, by far (as I'm sure you and your bassist know). I dunno man, maybe these people actually cant tell the difference, or don't have the ear for it, which is a damn shame :(
 
grimtraveller said:
I once heard this story about Jeff Beck.
He was waiting to go on stage and had an hour or something to kill. Hanging about backstage was this cheapo crappo guitar and an equally shitty amp. Well, to kill a bit of time, Beck picked up the shitty guitar and apparently coaxed the most unbelievably beautiful sounds out of it. Then he went on stage and played a blinder. But the teller of the story couldn't believe that a 'shit' guitar could sound so hot and came to the conclusion that however limiting an instrument may be, if it is in working order, a decent player can play it.
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I've heard that same story with Eric Clapton and someone else who's name excapes me. It's a myth and it never happened.

I don't see how anyone can argue that there is no difference betwenn a $100 Squire P-bass and the $750 Fender standard, much less the $1200 American Standard. Are they both basses, yes. Do they both play, yes. Are they the same, no.

The highest priced P-bass is $1700 street price in America. I'm pretty sure that American stuff is more expensive in the UK even if you adjust for the exchange rate.

It's not that much for a top of the line instrument, a Gibson Les Paul Standard
is $2700. Hell, a flying V is $1200.
 
Farview said:
I don't see how anyone can argue that there is no difference betwenn a $100 Squire P-bass and the $750 Fender standard, much less the $1200 American Standard. Are they both basses, yes. Do they both play, yes. Are they the same, no.

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I'm not saying there's no difference. I'm saying the difference isn't worth two thousand dollars. :laughings:
 
LOL @ the 92 cents at the end. Will they not give me the guitar if i only have $6,690 ? :rolleyes:
 
Even I think the reliced stuff is silly. Once you factor in the higher quality materials, better build quality and higher resale value, it is worth it.

By the time you take a squire, replace the electronics, replace the hardware for something that isn't made of the metal equivalent of cheese and get some fretwork done along with a decent setup, you've spent at least $700-800 and you still end up with a piece of plywood with a half-assed neck sticking out of it.
 
This is just about the weirdest and most childish reverse snobbery thread I've ever seen here. You do realize that you are all ragging on a guy because he has good equipment.
You are the same people that rag on cheap cymbals, bad heads and cheap mics. Sheesh!
 
Rimshot said:
This is just about the weirdest and most childish reverse snobbery thread I've ever seen here. You do realize that you are all ragging on a guy because he has good equipment.
You are the same people that rag on cheap cymbals, bad heads and cheap mics. Sheesh!
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Lol. Calm down. It's all in good fun. :D
 
Greg_L said:
I'm not saying there's no difference. I'm saying the difference isn't worth two thousand dollars. :laughings:
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You're not wrong.
You are paying for the brand name too, but 70% of the cash is going toward the sound/craft.

Give or take a few $100's, bass aint just bass boi!:cool:
 
Rimshot said:
This is just about the weirdest and most childish reverse snobbery thread I've ever seen here. You do realize that you are all ragging on a guy because he has good equipment.
You are the same people that rag on cheap cymbals, bad heads and cheap mics. Sheesh!
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That's kind of unfair. Two of my posts were very much tongue in cheek. The Jeff Beck one wasn't to illustrate that there's no difference between instruments. That would be stupid coz of course there are differences. The first bass I ever had was a fourth hand KAY that I bought for £34 in a second hand shop in Hendon Central and it was pretty rubbish. But it's what I learned on....After a couple of years, I bought a new Fender musicmaster and the difference was as a jet to a bike ! No, I just thought it was an interesting story that was mildly connected to the diversion the topic had taken. Whether the Beck story was true or an urban myth, it's notable that in the story, he doesn't go on stage with the shitty guitar !!:D
Personally, I don't care how much an instrument cost someone because as far as I'm concerned, it's none of my business and to the owner, it's worth it. That's all that counts.
 
Rimshot said:
You guys are all jealous that this guy has a great bass.
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Originally Posted by Lounge_Act
If you're into recording audio, I'm frankly surprised you can't tell the difference between the sound of a $100 bass and a $2000 bass.
The Beatles had bass with no clarity in the 60s/70's, but these days, you can hear the it, not just feel it.
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To be honest with you, I really can't tell the difference between a $100 bass and a $2000 one {so jealousy can't come into it}. What I can tell are the different bass tones that come on various recordings. I don't think in terms of the expense or 'quality' {isn't that rather subjective ?} in that sense. But I will say this - I think the bass guitar really started to come into it's own around 1965-ish and it took about ten years roughly from then before a standard way of recording the bass seemed to be settled on. So in that ten years, I think there were lots of fantastic bass tones. I hate it when people say 'it's only a bass' coz there really are loads of different tones there. Even the Beatles in the years '66-'68 got some great bass tones and I hear them very clearly. The Who, Cream, Yes, the Stranglers, Rush, Stevie Wonder, Motown, Led Zeppelin, the Jackson 5, Parliament, Graham Central Station, the whole reggae genre of that period, soul, jazz rock....so many great tones and this is before the disco period where there were some good bass tones.
 
grimtraveller said:
To be honest with you, I really can't tell the difference between a $100 bass and a $2000 one {so jealousy can't come into it}. What I can tell are the different bass tones that come on various recordings. I don't think in terms of the expense or 'quality' {isn't that rather subjective ?} in that sense. But I will say this - I think the bass guitar really started to come into it's own around 1965-ish and it took about ten years roughly from then before a standard way of recording the bass seemed to be settled on. So in that ten years, I think there were lots of fantastic bass tones. I hate it when people say 'it's only a bass' coz there really are loads of different tones there. Even the Beatles in the years '66-'68 got some great bass tones and I hear them very clearly. The Who, Cream, Yes, the Stranglers, Rush, Stevie Wonder, Motown, Led Zeppelin, the Jackson 5, Parliament, Graham Central Station, the whole reggae genre of that period, soul, jazz rock....so many great tones and this is before the disco period where there were some good bass tones.
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Well said, man. The Bootsie Collins era was definitely a turn-around for tones, when he started slapping it. I would say that when funk came about, bassists started experimenting and emphasizing tones and clarity.
I'm sure you've played different price's of instruments, weather it be drums/bass/guitar, and there just is a different feel to it.
And for some reason, (for me anyway) i play it more because i enjoy the feel of it, which i wouldn't normally get out of a $100 bass. Its like playing two different types of guitars. It doesn't make me a bad musician, it just means i know what sound i prefare when it comes to bass. :o

Bassists care about the sound of recordings, as much as a drummer looks out for a snare sound in a CD.

Greg_L said:
The rest of us in the real world will tell you there's no difference in sound. It's just a bass.
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Thats like me saying "Its just a snare" when comparing the sound of a Stagg to a Gretch. lol.
 
It's more about how it makes you feel than the actual sound.
 
I have a roland elec drum kit and my neighbors complained too cus I`m upstairs...I moved it away from the window and put it on one of those rubber industrial floomats like the ones used in bars and restaurants and now they cant hear it at all and bang that thing at 2 in the morning!! As far as Your garage you should be okay garage door openers are electric...
 
presto5 said:
I have a roland elec drum kit and my neighbors complained too cus I`m upstairs...I moved it away from the window and put it on one of those rubber industrial floomats like the ones used in bars and restaurants and now they cant hear it at all and bang that thing at 2 in the morning!! As far as Your garage you should be okay garage door openers are electric...
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Seriously, half the time you're screwed because your neighbors are listening for you. They know there's a drummer in the building and they complain about the least little sound. I had this problem a few years ago when a neighbor kept complaining to the co-op board where I live and the director actually came to my neighbor's apartment to listen and told them that there was very little sound and that they were just getting too sensitive. (I was playing on a practice pad at the time and I have a practice pad set that I use)
Meanwhile I am forced to listen to Salsa music at about 100 db coming from my neighbor's apartments regularly and nobody (including me) complains about that.
 
Rimshot said:
This is just about the weirdest and most childish reverse snobbery thread I've ever seen here. You do realize that you are all ragging on a guy because he has good equipment.
You are the same people that rag on cheap cymbals, bad heads and cheap mics. Sheesh!
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No ones ragging on anyone, infact it's cool that he has nice high end equipment. We're laughing at the 6 thou dollar banged up bass, at least i am :) If he can afford to buy a $2,000 bass than good for him.
 
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