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Executivos
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Anyone know why some studios do that? Just curious.
mixmkr
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so the heat from the tube will rise and the mic's "inards" will be preserved like they should be..
Or...just to get the friggin mess out of the way of the singer and to look *cool* in VH1 videos.....your choice
....or all of the above.
Or...just to get the friggin mess out of the way of the singer and to look *cool* in VH1 videos.....your choice
....or all of the above.
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Executivos
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I like the vh1 excuse better. I gotcha on the tube thing, but not EVERY mic you see is tube. is it just a thing of "well they did it (not realizing it was tube) so we should too?"
mixmkr
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Executivos said:
No....they were probably making a VH1 video
skippy
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In the ancient days, this was done so that the mic would be out of the way of the sightline from performer to music stand...
No, really. Used to be, musicians (even lead vocalists) would keep the chart around in the studio, so that they could see what was going on- make producer and arranger notes- and stuff like that.
They used to actually read the chart as they performed, and coming in from above kept the mic out of the way. Still does, too, especially since I need bifocals to read these days...
Any engineer that _doesn't_ hang the vocal mics from above is showing his youth, and a (probably unwarranted) belief that the lead vocalist is off the paper when they come into the room!
Hint: *NOBODY* is ever off the paper when the talent is in the room, the strings are sitting in the live room making scale, and the producer wants the track _in the can_ by midnight...
No, really. Used to be, musicians (even lead vocalists) would keep the chart around in the studio, so that they could see what was going on- make producer and arranger notes- and stuff like that.
They used to actually read the chart as they performed, and coming in from above kept the mic out of the way. Still does, too, especially since I need bifocals to read these days...
Any engineer that _doesn't_ hang the vocal mics from above is showing his youth, and a (probably unwarranted) belief that the lead vocalist is off the paper when they come into the room!
Hint: *NOBODY* is ever off the paper when the talent is in the room, the strings are sitting in the live room making scale, and the producer wants the track _in the can_ by midnight...
philboyd studge
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Hmmm.....what a neat idea. I almost always work off a chart or a lyric sheet cause I'm recording material I wrote but don't remember anymore. Still, I don't think I can see around the pop filter weather it's right side up or upside down.
mixmkr
we don't need rest!!
skippy said:
I believe ya!!!
didn't I say dat first, dude!!!
VOXVENDOR
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Hmmmmm.. Wow, some damn good responses..
I always thought it was like that so the lead singer can get a blow job without the bulky stand being in the way...
Anyone seen "The Doors"... Val Kilmer Demonstrates this method quite well..
I always thought it was like that so the lead singer can get a blow job without the bulky stand being in the way...
Anyone seen "The Doors"... Val Kilmer Demonstrates this method quite well..
Lopp
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VOXVENDOR said:Hmmmmm.. Wow, some damn good responses..
I always thought it was like that so the lead singer can get a blow job without the bulky stand being in the way...
Anyone seen "The Doors"... Val Kilmer Demonstrates this method quite well..
So much for renting "The Doors." I really don't want to see Val Kilmer giving someone a blow job.
wes480
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Lopp said:
So much for renting "The Doors." I really don't want to see Val Kilmer giving someone a blow job.
Haha.....so true. Vox man I think we know what you meant but YIKES. Scratch that one off of my list, too.
Yeah I have wondered about hanging the mic as well...the tube thing makes pretty good sense assuming a tube mic.
I am a little lost on the whole "chart" thing. I don't see how a right side up mic is going to make a singer not be able to read "the paper"? Explain this to me. What...a chart hanging on a wall? right in front of them?
VOXVENDOR
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SSSSSilly-Boyssss *said with lisp*
skippy
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Well, music stands are usually only about 4 feet tall, so mounting a (big hairy old) mic in a shock mount coming up from below will usually block the sight line to the stand pretty much completely- you naturally look downhill at a music stand. Coming in from above lets the talent look right under the mic at whatever is on the music stand. If done right, it also encourages them to use good posture for the best vocal production (open stance, straightened throat, lifted palate, that sort of thing...).
Before the advent of cheap pantyhose, mics were positioned to *avoid* the pops- rather than stuck right in the middle of the pop path and then band-aided. Singing right on top of a LD condenser is sort of a modern perversion, anyway: in a good sounding room, you'd usually want to be a couple feet off the mic, in a classic big-name-vocal studio session.
If you haven't ever tried flying the mic in from above for a vocal session, you should. You may find that you can actually help out a less-practiced singer's vocal production, and get a better performance....
Before the advent of cheap pantyhose, mics were positioned to *avoid* the pops- rather than stuck right in the middle of the pop path and then band-aided. Singing right on top of a LD condenser is sort of a modern perversion, anyway: in a good sounding room, you'd usually want to be a couple feet off the mic, in a classic big-name-vocal studio session.
If you haven't ever tried flying the mic in from above for a vocal session, you should. You may find that you can actually help out a less-practiced singer's vocal production, and get a better performance....
