Why acoustic amp?

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zacanger said:
::Shrug:: because it sounds better. But live that's not always the best idea.
yup.
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yep. btw, what's up with the dog in your sig. anyway?
 
zacanger said:
Question for you, seeing as you're a soundman. Do you let guitarists rely on backline when they're going electric? I've met a lot of resistance from guitarists on this board who will not let a soundman mic an amp, they insist on cranking louder and louder to be heard over the band.

I work as a soundman & I generally find beating the offending guitarists with a brick often helps :D :D

In a closed house setting I beat them into a state of lower volume so I've got control but occassionally you get a fcuktard who cranks up & you then have to remove them from the mix & use the Pa to balance the sound. OTOH outdoors is a bit more forgiving with volume restraints

anyhow IMHO if you crank an amp beyond a point (especially tube) it doesn't get any louder as such, just a bit more mushy & nasty sounding

anyhow a brick, always works for me
 
Hmm, a brick, really? Okay, I guess, as long as the fingers aren't damaged. Yeah... I've noticed a lot of guitarists think the tone only improves the louder you turn the amp up, like they'll get the best distortion that way, when a lot of them are using transistor amps with digital distortion anyway, and usually the ones who aren't use the preamp gain anyway.
 
BTW just to clear something

I would never as a soundman contemplate using an AA to amplify an acoustic it would have to be thru a PA as well, so the AA becomes the same as a bass amp, essentially an onstage monitor for the player that is not dependant on the soundman & stops a load of earache. I have a Trace TA30R & I sometimes take it along just incase because I know for a fact that the inevitable Mr. Acoustic will say LMAO "I can't hear myself in the monitor"

gcapel my thoughts are with you :)
 
zacanger said:
Question for you, seeing as you're a soundman. Do you let guitarists rely on backline when they're going electric? I've met a lot of resistance from guitarists on this board who will not let a soundman mic an amp, they insist on cranking louder and louder to be heard over the band.

It depends on the volumes. I do mainly low volume apps. Most of the time I mic the amp no matter what they say. They don't have to hear the house. If there stage volume is too high(no control), i will threaten them. If you have good monitors with plenty of power and a house with power, micing shouldn't be an issue. I guess some guitar players get used to there practice sessions.
 
gcapel said:
It depends on the volumes. I do mainly low volume apps. Most of the time I mic the amp no matter what they say. They don't have to hear the house. If there stage volume is too high(no control), i will threaten them. If you have good monitors with plenty of power and a house with power, micing shouldn't be an issue. I guess some guitar players get used to there practice sessions.

ever resorted to a brick??
 
zacanger said:
yep. btw, what's up with the dog in your sig. anyway?
Bad leg I think. :D

I put it up on talk like a pirate day and I can't be arsed to change it.
 
Hey, you actually know about Talk Like A Pirate Day? That's awesome. That's my fiancee's birthday. She used to be a pirate, actually.
 
zacanger said:
Hey, you actually know about Talk Like A Pirate Day? That's awesome. That's my fiancee's birthday. She used to be a pirate, actually.

everyone knows about talk like a pirate day...................don't they???
 
zacanger said:
Hey, you actually know about Talk Like A Pirate Day? That's awesome. That's my fiancee's birthday. She used to be a pirate, actually.

Mine, too; that's how I first heard of TLAPD. Someone sent me an e-card with the link.
 
slidey said:
everyone knows about talk like a pirate day...................don't they???

Well... I didn't until my fiancee told me. So I'm sure there's someone else who doesn't know... right? Please? Someone? Oh well.

ggunn said:
Mine, too; that's how I first heard of TLAPD. Someone sent me an e-card with the link.

Hot-awesome.
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
yup.
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FWIW, I don't think anyone in here was ever advocating using an acoustic amp for recording. They are useful for being able to hear a sortalike acoustic guitar sound as a stage monitor in a live setting, and in that application they are much better than a standard guitar amp. They can be very useful to an acoustic guitarist in a situation where there are more players onstage than there are monitor mixes, or when the monitors just plain suck.

But what really rocks for live acoustic guitar is this thing:

http://www.guitarcenter.com/shop/pr...lification_system_products?full_sku=102465317
 
ggunn said:
FWIW, I don't think anyone in here was ever advocating using an acoustic amp for recording. They are useful for being able to hear a sortalike acoustic guitar sound as a stage monitor in a live setting, and in that application they are much better than a standard guitar amp. They can be very useful to an acoustic guitarist in a situation where there are more players onstage than there are monitor mixes, or when the monitors just plain suck.]

boing boing boing

I'm sure I said something similar
 
gcapel said:
I like the idea of an acoustic amp. Coming from a soundman.... I get tired of a guitar player saying "I can't here myself through the monitor" because he adjust his volume knob on the guitar. Amen for the acoustic amp for monitoring. In a live sound situation i don't think the sound quality will be much different (di vs AA).
Exactly! I've got an SWR Strawberry Blonde and I basically only use it as a personal monitor. I always run a line out of it into the board so it's acting as a "DI" as well. But I would say that's the biggest benefit of an amp over going straight DI. Another benefit is it's a decent little bass amp for low-volume practice sessions or recording.
 
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