Which vocal mic around 150?

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astoebe said:
I think I might buy one of those MSH-1A things, I'm pretty interested...

And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the MXL 991 is not a bad mic for acoustic instruments...

I agree with getting a 58 also, everyone needs more than one...

yep that 991 is pretty good.....theres a new MXL603 capsule coming out that will fit it also if one has one already........
 
astoebe said:
I think I might buy one of those MSH-1A things, I'm pretty interested...

And I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say the MXL 991 is not a bad mic for acoustic instruments...

I agree with getting a 58 also, everyone needs more than one...

I listened to the sample of the MSH-1A from the site, and thought it sounded kind of over-the-top tinny. It's just an mp3 I guess, but for drum OH, I'm looking for a little more 'bottom'- I'm only using OH, snare/hat, and kick for mics, not tom mics. They might be nice for cymbals, I suppose, but I might be missing something in my assessment.

I have a couple AT871-R boundary mics (from lurking on ebay) that I mounted on small pieces of luaun and put in DIY shock-mounts. They get a pretty full sound- I got a nice fat floor-tom hit from 'em on a track with my reggae band. I might experiment with bigger mounting plates for more fullness though.

I paid $80 total for the two mics, bought separately.
 
sloom said:
I listened to the sample of the MSH-1A from the site, and thought it sounded kind of over-the-top tinny. It's just an mp3 I guess, but for drum OH, I'm looking for a little more 'bottom'- I'm only using OH, snare/hat, and kick for mics, not tom mics. They might be nice for cymbals, I suppose, but I might be missing something in my assessment.

I haven't done a lot with my MSH-1A mics, but that definitely hasn't been my experience. I played across the piano keyboard to listen for frequency dips and boosts. Not very scientific, of course, but it gave me an idea. If I'm thinking of the right mic (I was testing a few mics that day), I seem to recall a slight dip range about 800Hz and a slight boost from about 1.3kHz to 2.1kHz, both of which were very slight (maybe 1-2 dB. That's a couple octaves above middle C. The low end was pretty much flat as best I could tell.

Anyway, I definitely didn't notice the bass to be weak. It just isn't hyped. It seemed fairly flat to me. Thus, it is good for general miking (e.g. drum overheads). For a tom mic, you'd probably want something with a bit more warmth and slower transient response, e.g. a large diaphragm condenser or a traditional moving coil dynamic.
 
My sincerest apologies to TragikRemix and JonnyC. I didn't know untill Tragiks response that he/she was as he/she said "An Amauteur" , and after listening to Jonnyc's music posts, I can see he/she has a long way to go to reach what you are all trying to reach. No offense guys/girls. I just figured from the tone of your responses, that I was talking to people that have been in the business of making music as long as I have been, only to find out that you're not.
Thankfully I have been in this business of writing, performing, producing, and recording music longer than most. I am very thankfull that I have been able to make a very lucrative living doing something I love for 20+ years. I try to help people with their craft, not act like a holier-than-thou know it all.
(i.e JonnyC)

While interning at Criteria Studios in Miami from '74-'76, I've had the opportunity to engineer sessions for Eric Clapton, the Eagles, Black Sabbath, Tom Petty and many others.

Since opening my own Long Island N.Y. based studio in 1981, with another location in South Florida (1992), I've had the privelige to work with countless professionals. I'm thankful every day of my life that I can wake up in the morning and do what I love for a living.

Again, sorry guys/girls. I didn't know you guys/girls were just amateurs.

Tragik-I don't know what your stuff sounds like but keep it up, bro!!

JonnyC, I sorry I judged you only by what you wrote about someones post. Now that I had a chance to listen to your music that you posted, I can only say "Try harder, you'll get the hang of this." Try to be a little more original. It sounds like your trying too hard to sound like something else. After years of doing this all I can offer is, try to find your own sound, I'm sure it's in ther somewhere.
peace and rock and roll to all
 
all is well sal. imma guy hehe.

welcome to the forum.

which studio on LI, looky where i live lol.
 
Sal4001 said:
I didn't know untill Tragiks response that he/she was as he/she said "An Amauteur"
Hmmmm... what part of homerecording.com did you miss?
 
Daniel Reichman said:
Hmmmm... what part of homerecording.com did you miss?

The fact that it is "HOME" means nothing in this day and age. While I prefer the studio being in a different building, in a different location than my home, my main engineer has a studio, in his "HOME" that attracts A-List clients on a regular basis. You may have even heard some of the work done there, if you listen to certain pop music from the last 5 years.
Forget my main studio, my current "HOME" project studio can compete with many other "REAL" studios. So don't confuse "HOME" with unprofessional or amateurish.
 
Yeah, Miami...

I lived in Miami from '76 'till '93. I remember hanging out at my friend Angus' apartment in Cocnut Grove, and watching the Marshall Tucker Band's 18-Wheeler trying to back into the Criteria parking lot from S. Shore Rd (Gawd- I think that was the name of the main road going through the Grove, south toward the Rickenbacker Causeway!). Their trailer clogged up the road for about 20-30 minutes, maybe longer. We were just kids in high school, and it was pretty exciting, to see any part of a major-league band's process having to do with recording!

Angus went on to work for Mesa Boogie, and roadied-tech'd for Bill Wyman (Steel Wheels Tour), and Carlos Santana. I went on to be a carpenter (and bass player- now I'm a "Home Studio-ist")! :p

Anyway, this is close to home, your mention of Criteria and Miami. Good to make your virtual acquaintance, Sal!
 
Sal4001 said:
My sincerest apologies to TragikRemix and JonnyC. I didn't know untill Tragiks response that he/she was as he/she said "An Amauteur" , and after listening to Jonnyc's music posts, I can see he/she has a long way to go to reach what you are all trying to reach. No offense guys/girls. I just figured from the tone of your responses, that I was talking to people that have been in the business of making music as long as I have been, only to find out that you're not.
Thankfully I have been in this business of writing, performing, producing, and recording music longer than most. I am very thankfull that I have been able to make a very lucrative living doing something I love for 20+ years. I try to help people with their craft, not act like a holier-than-thou know it all.
(i.e JonnyC)

While interning at Criteria Studios in Miami from '74-'76, I've had the opportunity to engineer sessions for Eric Clapton, the Eagles, Black Sabbath, Tom Petty and many others.

Since opening my own Long Island N.Y. based studio in 1981, with another location in South Florida (1992), I've had the privelige to work with countless professionals. I'm thankful every day of my life that I can wake up in the morning and do what I love for a living.

Again, sorry guys/girls. I didn't know you guys/girls were just amateurs.

Tragik-I don't know what your stuff sounds like but keep it up, bro!!

JonnyC, I sorry I judged you only by what you wrote about someones post. Now that I had a chance to listen to your music that you posted, I can only say "Try harder, you'll get the hang of this." Try to be a little more original. It sounds like your trying too hard to sound like something else. After years of doing this all I can offer is, try to find your own sound, I'm sure it's in ther somewhere.
peace and rock and roll to all


Well that's nice and all, and I hate the fact things got this heated, but the info the young man was asking about is already all over the web and there's no need to clog the forums with the same questions over and over. As far as the music goes, I'm just an engineer, that's not my music. I apologize for things getting heated but be aware that in the future if you don't like someones response then ignore it, you didn't have to start out by calling me a jerk, you could've just moved on.

Quick Sal, someones being mean to someone asking about best mics for a rapper, go save him!!! I'm just playing, but trying to point out that I'm not the only one that reactes the way I do to the same question over and over and over.
 
Hey it's all good my brothers. Sorry about the "Jerk" line.
Well, gotta go.Another hurricane's on the way-time to batten down the hatches and go acoustic when the power goes. Rock on my brothers......sal
 
Sal4001 said:
The fact that it is "HOME" means nothing in this day and age. While I prefer the studio being in a different building, in a different location than my home, my main engineer has a studio, in his "HOME" that attracts A-List clients on a regular basis. You may have even heard some of the work done there, if you listen to certain pop music from the last 5 years.
Forget my main studio, my current "HOME" project studio can compete with many other "REAL" studios. So don't confuse "HOME" with unprofessional or amateurish.

Absolutely and for folk like me this is the reason for the board. It is for those professionals here to give advice to people like me who have very limited gear, advice on how to get the best out of what you have got.

Making music is my hobby, albeit a serious hobby (I believe every 40 year old has to have one to justify the grey hairs!). I am a musician first and an amateur home recordist second. The advice I have received here has helped me enjoy my hobby even more. I won't get a record deal or make a million bucks but that doesn't mean what I do isn't worthwhile. I get a kick when my kids sing and hum my songs. Maybe then, as I take this relatively seriously my kids will get an appetite for it too.. who knows? But I know that doing this keeps this bunny sane.

We ought to have a little less oneupmanship but if that is what it takes to get pros here to help us amateurs then I ain't complaining. Keep up the good work gents!
 
Sal4001 said:
Hey it's all good my brothers. Sorry about the "Jerk" line.
Well, gotta go.Another hurricane's on the way-time to batten down the hatches and go acoustic when the power goes. Rock on my brothers......sal


Hey good luck with that man, be safe and if it gets bad get the hell out. I've had family ride out the storms and once we weren't sure they'd make it.
 
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