which cubase?

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Can anyone help me?
I have just started a Cubase course and the tutor says we will need to buy our own program fairly soon. He says we'll need SX at least. However, as far as I can see there is only SE, SL and SX3 on offer. I definitely can't afford SX3, but have not seen any other SX versions advertised. I've downloaded the SXv1.02 demo from Steinberg but with no instructions it's like groping about in the dark and anyway, it's probably different to the one I end up buying so what's the point of it as a demo?
It may be different here in UK of course.
Thanks very much in advance.
 
Previous to the S-series...

Previous to the S-series were VST 3.7 & VST 5.1, which I use. I think most serious pro-users have now moved on to the S-series (which no doubt someone here will confirm), but the earlier programs were, to my mind, much more user-friendly, and 5.1 in particular has a lot of users still.

You'll fairly easily find a secondhand VST 5.1 for sale on the Net - SX3 is indeed pricey - but the 5.1 Copyright Protection Key needs a printer port, not USB, which is a bit outdated these days. Also, Steinberg no longer offers any support for 5.1.

Still, there are sites which can help you:-
http://forum.cubase.net/cgi-bin/cubase.net/Ultimate.cgi - click on Cubase VST for Windows.
http://www.espace-cubase.org/anglais/page.php?page=accueil is a great learning site for all versions.

As you are learning, perhaps you should immediately get into the S-series, though I thought I'd tell you about 5.1 as I personally like it so much.

Good Luck!

HB16.
 
HumanBean16,
Thanks for your advice, do I take it then that there is no earlier SX version available?
I've seen SX2's advertised on Ebay but you never know if they're copies.
 
The S-series started with SL/SX 1, then SX 2 & now SX 3. I didn't know about SE, but I've checked at the Steinberg site and it looks like what you need: http://www.steinberg.net/ProductPage_sb.asp?Product_ID=2124&Langue_ID=2 :- "Great technology at a great price: that's Cubase SE. Based on Steinberg's renowned Cubase SX, Cubase SE is ideal for anyone who keeps a sharp eye on their finances but doesn't want to do without professional technologies in their home recording, project or pre-production studios."

"This "Special Edition" of Cubase offers functions that won't leave you wanting, including 48 audio tracks, an unlimited number of MIDI tracks, sequencing and hard disk recording features as well as professional 24-bit/96kHz resolution." It's priced @ €149, and with Steinberg you can upgrade at very good prices.

It seems that SE is a more basic version of SX - being probably simpler, but with the same interface, it would probably be ideal for learning on.

I'd suggest you see what other comments users here may make. BTW, it seems that you can upgrade from VST 5.1 to SX 3 for only @399. If you find a cheap 5.1 or even a VST 3x, you'll get to your SX 3 much cheaper in due course.

Hope this helps,

HB16.
 
geoff - lets see if your tutor knows his stuff.
assk him if he has ever tried alternatives like powertracks, n track, traktion,
or multitrackstudio.com, or magix music studio.
if he doesnt , tell him to try the demoes then look at pricing.
many pro's are using the foregong. all under 100 bucks.
try the demoes for yourself if you think i'm lying.
sx is a nice product. but there are superb low cost alternatives imho.
 
HumanBean16 said:
Previous to the S-series were VST 3.7 & VST 5.1, which I use. I think most serious pro-users have now moved on to the S-series (which no doubt someone here will confirm), but the earlier programs were, to my mind, much more user-friendly...
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You've got to be kidding...... VST 5.1 is what I started with, and the interface was horrible.... they didn't even try to set-up processes that model a typical studio interaction with console/effects/bussing/etc......

SX is MUCH better from an interface point of view.... they've made routing/setup/layout much more "studio-appropriate"...
 
manning1 said:
geoff - lets see if your tutor knows his stuff.
assk him if he has ever tried alternatives like powertracks, n track, traktion,
or multitrackstudio.com, or magix music studio.
if he doesnt , tell him to try the demoes then look at pricing.
many pro's are using the foregong. all under 100 bucks.
try the demoes for yourself if you think i'm lying.
sx is a nice product. but there are superb low cost alternatives imho.
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If he's taking a Cubase course, why would he want to buy something other than Cubase? Although fundamentals may run similar between multitrack software packages, it would be nice to apply the learned skill in the appropriate software. It's a CUBASE course.

geoff956: you can find academic versions of Cubase. If you're in the UK, you could try Arbiter:

http://www.arbitermt.co.uk/

I would think you could use the course as educational proof for the academic pricing - you'd certainly have to check first.
 
Thanks everyone for the help. I shall certainly take up the academic pricing point with the tutor, and check out the VST5.1 - SX3 upgrade.
 
Blue Bear Sound said:
You've got to be kidding...... VST 5.1 is what I started with, and the interface was horrible.... they didn't even try to set-up processes that model a typical studio interaction with console/effects/bussing/etc......

SX is MUCH better from an interface point of view.... they've made routing/setup/layout much more "studio-appropriate"...
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Yeah, I see your point of view, Bear. But you're a pro studio guy. I'm just a songwriter who needs to get his stuff down in a listenable form. I'm not running SX down, but I personally don't like it and, maybe, it's also a bit daunting for me...

HB16.
 
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