(good lord, and he we go....
)
'Yeah' - that's exactly what I'm trying to do here - 'throw out 'balls' for people to catch so that some good, wholesome 'arguing' can take place......
(thanks a lot guys)
Look you two - if you honestly think I'm trying to come in here to start 'wars' or silly arguments, then you're highly mistaken. I was simply offering-up some ideas or alternatives to the man's original inquiry, and I'm certainly (nor did I ever for that matter) say that he needed to spend as much money as he can
possibly afford, on ANY computer.
(And by the way: if you're going to call me out like that, or disagree with something I've said - fine, then do so - essentially, that's what we're here for. But don't just make cheap & stupid accusations like that, and then end it by saying, "there are SO many things wrong with this...." again, if so, 'fine' - but what are they then? Can you possibly try & be a bit more specific?)
I don't even have the first 'clue' of what 'ball' you're referring to (mr. 'dintymoore' or 'philbagg'
)
But what I
do know is that these forums are designed for discussion purposes, and each of us have the exact same right as you two do, to come in here, offer up various opinions for those in need of possible answers to their questions.
(but if this is in fact the 'dintymoore & philbagg show', and everyone else's opinions are complete crap compared to your own, and simply aren't worth hearing - then please let us know, so that I for one, can excuse myself, find a different forum to go to, and just let you two guys run the show from here, if that's what you'd like?)
Now getting back to the 'topic' at hand: All I recommended for the original author of this thread ('Pylon Icon') was not
all that far from what you ('dintymoore') was offering. I explained to him that it really depended on what
type of 'recording studio' he was looking to build to begin with. If he was trying to build a 'smaller', home-based studio - then using a 'cheaper', less-expensive computer of ANY kind was probably fine. But if he was looking to build a 'bigger', more professional style studio, then a better, stable, more reliable computer (of ANY kind) was needed (but probably a Mac in my opinion, would be the better choice - given what he's trying to do.)
I'm sorry, but if you're planning on operating a 'serious' studio, in which 'reliability' is absolutely
key - then 'no', I simply don't see 'how' or 'why' it would benefit
anybody to use the 'cheapest' computer available? (and you also stated to just get one for 'free' like
you did - but where exactly are you getting all of these 'free' Mac computers? or better yet, 'where' can any of
us get these 'free' computers?)
I never said a
single word about 'buying the most expensive computer you could possibly afford' Again, the original author of this post stated:
* he was a 'Seattle
producer, who was all about 'perfection' when it came to music, his primary investment was to buy a
new computer or an upgrade because Windows & Vista was
not performing to his liking, he had
$1,400 to spend, and that he was already considering a Mac, but would like to use
some of his left-over money for additional equipment.'
- by that, I can only assume he's looking for a fairly 'semi-professional' type of set-up (not a cheap, randomly pieced-together Wal-Mart special.)
If you would have actually 'read' both of what he said, and what I replied to him - I was trying to let him know that he
could get a Mac fairly 'inexpensive' nowadays. I also told him that he could try 'building one' on his own for not much money, or find a used one, or even to just buy a 'mini-mac' or better yet, maybe an 'imac' - again, for NOT much money nowadays. (you can find a
huge variety of ANY of the Mac family computers on Ebay now, for
well under $1,400 and still have money left-over for other gear.) Where's the problem in that?
Exactly 'how' is that such 'horrible' advice? What 'ball' mr. 'dintymoore' are you accusing me of throwing? (whatever the hell that means?)
The man asked for opinions & help, and I tried to offer him some - not 'stir-up' arguments & 'throw balls' as you so kindly put it. But I have worked with Sony in their computer technical division for 7 years, worked with Apple computers in their pro-audio/tech division for 11 years, and throughout all of that - I've worked at 5 pro-level recording studios (that I mentioned earlier) for a grand total of 28 years.
Please understand, I say absolutely
none of this for
any type of 'bragging rights' or even anything of that nature - but
only to let you know that I 'do' happen to know just a
little bit about pro-recording, especially within the computer/DAW industry.
So if I'm "SO way off on SO many levels....." - and only come on here to pick arguments or 'throw balls around' - then both of you, 'speak up' & tell me what I've said that's 'so wrong', and stop trying to make me out to be some sort of trouble-maker who has absolutely no clue as to what he's even talking about.
(but it is kinda funny that you say that about
me, when in fact
your best answer or solution to the man's original question is - "it doesn't matter what computer you use - they're all the same, all new computers suck, but I can show you a Jay Leno video on 'how to make a plastic wrench', and that should answer everything for ya."
(give me a break.)
) - but first off, you can get Macs at very reasonable prices depending on how you go about it (it's not 2002 anymore, plus, you can build your own Mac as well, for much lower costs now - anybody should know that by now 
- but you do have to remember, 'Macs' were originally designed & built to do jobs exactly such as these (pro-audio, film, graphics) - and they do a VERY damn good job at it as well. Not to mention, they're built like 'tanks' & their operating systems are extremely rock-solid compared to anything by Windows. Last I checked (in 3 out of 4 of the leading 'pro-audio' publications currently out there) nearly 87% of all recording studios within the U.S. are currently (and have been) using Mac set-ups to run ANY DAW platforms out on the market - so that should give you a pretty good idea for starters. (I've also worked in 5 pro-studios across the united states) - and every one of them use Apple computers to run their studios with - period.
