Where do you stand on Motorized Faders?

Slouching Raymond

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They might be flash, to impress, but do you really naad them?
Are they necessary?
Are they just something else to fail, and are you better off with regular faders?
 
eh? If they fail, then they're just faders, but frankly, they are just so sensible. When you do mixes, push a fader up and down and having it repeat what you did is really handy. I could do without them, but they really speed things up. The lighting people are now finding them good too.
 
I have an Akai MidiMix attached to my DAW - One irritant is when reloading a project, the faders are not going to line up with the screen. I would love to have the money to get a board with motorized faders just for the ability to have it match the digital settings!
 
I've got one on a Frontier Alphatrack and it really makes setting levels easier. I can just move the fader until things sound right. Moving an on-screen fader with a mouse just isn't the same.
 
I watched a youtube review of the SSL UF8. It was impressive.
The only drawback, the reviewer said, was the transport controls were not dedicated, and were in an inconvenient place.
It woud be possible to modify it, to add external transport buttons.

Moving an on-screen fader with a mouse just isn't the same.
I agree that using a mouse to adjust pots and faders is un-natural.

The biggest thing that annoys me is not having physical transport controls.
 
Quite a few shows this year are touring touch screen control surfaces and while the systems are really good - so far nobody has liked the faders, citing the precision needed to move the faders - one is fine, but to move multiple faders, one of your fingers always seems to miss. Real faders are much nicers, and if they move, that'll do me!
 
On a digital console, you've generally got layers. That is, there aren't enough actual faders to control all the channels, so you have to switch between layers for 16 faders to control 32 channels. When switching layers, you need the faders to revert to the positions that represent the settings on the selected layer. Similarly, on some consoles (e.g. Soundcraft Si Expression), a master fader might perform multiple functions. On that console, there's a fader that controls the mono out on the main layer, but it becomes the aux send master when an aux send is selected. In addition to all that, you can have functions like having one channel on faders to all the aux sends (rather than all the channels into one aux send). Even further, the channel faders can be converted into a giant graphic eq (which, in the case of the Si Expression, requires two layers to cover all the frequencies). None of these functions would be practical without motorized faders.
 
give me a high quality monitor,
a decent mouse and mousepad,
and Studio One DAW.

motorized what?!
 
tell you what tho , if you want to impress a client move the physical fader using the mouse in the daw edit page. Up and Down ... lol they love it .. come to think of it thats one of the cool features of motorised faders .. and in digital desks when all your faders snap to position on recall , its a great way to keep work flow consistent
 
I thought of this too, even before I posted. You win the prize Mark. :thumbs up:
OMG ! i won something ! id like to thank my car for scarring the bejessus out of me every time i drive it :0) Thank you to the academy and all that voted for me ! aaah
( mark is escorted off stage by olivia wilde and the two have not been seen since )
 
I have a MIDI mixer and I like the controls, but they are not motorized and that sucks. As soon as I touch them, I have screwed up the fader on the mix.

If you are going to get a mixer, get them motorized so they can set to the last position, otherwise, stay in the box.
 
One thing that's often not mentioned is live recording of automation.
It's a bit of a best of both worlds for those who like riding the faders and pans live as you can set your DAW up to record the live automation changes you're dialling in, then recall them next time.
You can get that real-time live control environment without the need for it to be perfect it one take.

I used to like that the console would 'sense' that you're touching a fader, so it would read the automation that's there but the second you touched a fader it would start recording the position that it's at instead.
That meant that you weren't fighting the motors at any point.

I used to do this a fair bit at college and a place I used to work.
If you heard some automation that you didn't like, you'd just do it again on the next pass - Sort of like punching in and out but totally automatic.

At home I only had an 8 channel motorised console so the bank switching process that BSG referenced was a skill on its own!
 
They might be flash, to impress, but do you really naad them?
Are they necessary?
Are they just something else to fail, and are you better off with regular faders?
If you stand on them of course they are going to fail. My motorized faders have lasted over twenty years. I like them, they memorize the position on 99 tunes and saves me the trouble.
 
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