what's your favorite drum sound?
you could say that your favorite drum sound is jazz, or rock, or RnB, synthesised or live, whatever. are any of these names of drummers? no.
a drum sound is what you like listening to or what you think is good. surly there is more than one drummer who you like?
saying that i like dj shadow for the drum beats he finds, is in no way saying that he can play the drums or that i am crediting him for that, it is just more of a specific sound that i like. instead of just saying hip-hop, i'm saying that my favorite drum sound is more specific -> DJ Shadow.
and to credit him for drum sounds from things that he sampled is a discredit to all those who originally put the efforts forth to get those sounds on tape....and fooolish
this is a common misconception when talking (to me) about sample based music. sure, if you were talking to someone who did not know that all of shadow's work is sample based, then what you say is fair. but, i know that he uses samples, and i do not think that this means he is no more talented. sure, he does not play any instruments on his tracks, but that's not what i appreciate him for. what i appreciate him for (and what everyone should) is the fact that he has dug up all these great old records, bringing them to my attention. when my parents (or other people of the older variety) listen to his records, they are like 'hey i know that, it's so and so'. that means i can go out and get the original, know what i'm looking for, and broaden both my musical knowledge and my appreciation for music other than hip-hop. if i didn't listen to dj shadow i could never have found that record. he should also be credited for his skills in arranging songs. when listening to a track, can you tell which bits are from different records, when part of the original records actually start or end? he makes everything fit together as if it was an original song, which is probably harder than arranging a song that you have written yourself, you can change each part to fit with other ones, he cannot.
another thing that i should mention is that in my last post i was meaning a specific drummer that dj shadow sampled, i don't know his name, that's all. fully read my post before you reply.