Whatever happend to RE

[Outlaws]

???

Just dawned on me that he hasn't been around in a LOOOOOONG time.

 

[grahamware]

Yep...last time he posted, it was when I announced my FAQ idea. Sometime in July I think.

 

[CJWalker]

I haven't posted for months and was surprised of his absence.

 

[Outlaws]

It seems kind of weird to me because I got a Davisound based on his opinion that it would be more of an improvement on my sound than a better mic and I found the Davisound less than stellar..........I hope he didn't stop because he thinks I ruined his rep or something..

 

[tdukex]

It seems kind of weird to me because I got a Davisound based on his opinion that it would be more of an improvement on my sound than a better mic and I found the Davisound less than stellar..........I hope he didn't stop because he thinks I ruined his rep or something..

Hardly. RE has been an absent (seldom around) moderator for a couple of years--long before you showed up. You have neither the ability nor the credibility to ruin RE's reputation. So why bother bringing it up, eh?

 

[bgavin]

He lives right around the corner from me... I have an invite to come get acquainted, but I haven't found time to do that yet.

I hope he's alright. Perhaps he has a real life outside the message boards..

 

[Outlaws]

Hardly. RE has been an absent (seldom around) moderator for a couple of years--long before you showed up. You have neither the ability nor the credibility to ruin RE's reputation. So why bother bringing it up, eh?

And you don't have the credibility to make me care what your view of it is........so just keep talking.

The guy is 24 years old okay......you can't possible have a set in stone rep by that age. I'm 21......almost 22...but that doesn't matter because I'm still 21. So what if he posts on the board for a couple more years.....? He isn't God. He supposedly knows whats up with all this stuff, and when I get a piece of equipment that costs me a GRAND! and it doesn't do anything more than my shitty peice before it, then I have everyright to let it be known. And I have every right in the world to want to know what happend to him because he was a championing Davisound left and right.

 

[tdukex]

And you don't have the credibility to make me care what your view of it is........so just keep talking.

The guy is 24 years old okay......you can't possible have a set in stone rep by that age. I'm 21......almost 22...but that doesn't matter because I'm still 21. So what if he posts on the board for a couple more years.....? He isn't God. He supposedly knows whats up with all this stuff, and when I get a piece of equipment that costs me a GRAND! and it doesn't do anything more than my shitty peice before it, then I have everyright to let it be known. And I have every right in the world to want to know what happend to him because he was a championing Davisound left and right.

My credibility on this Board has been long established. So I don't worry about it.

RE has been doing this recording thing for a long time. He DOES know his shit, but just like yours and mine, his opinions are just that: opinions, and not everybody will agree with them. Hell, even the top pros disagree on many things regarding equipment and recording techniques.

You are correct, RE isn't God, and he is young. But he has established a great deal of credibility on this Board--though not with you. I agree with your assertion that when you buy a piece of gear (whether based on someone else's recommendation or not), you certainly have a right to let others know how you feel about it--especially for what you paid--a very big expense for you as it would be for me.

As a matter of fact, most of us want to hear different viewpoints, especially on uncommon gear. We don't necessarily want you to agree with RE or like a piece he recommended. But there is a huge credibility difference between stating your case earnestly and effectively and bellowing through the equipment forums like a young bull who just had his nuts cut off. In general, on the several Davisound threads that you started your behavior was childlike and boorish. That's why so many of the responses to you were negative. And your belief (or attempt to make others believe) that you ran RE off this Board because you ruined his credibility is arrogant in a very self-absorbed and silly way, and anybody who's been around here for a while and knows both of you from your posts on this Board is laughing right now.

You seem like a fairly intelligent young man with some interesting perspectives, and you are welcome to disagree with anyone about anything. In fact, we encourage it when done constructively. But as long as you stubbornly insist on acting like a caustic fool you'll receive little respect on this Board. Like I said, you seem intelligent. How fast of a learner are you?

 

[DJL]

Oh hell, RE is most likely just working or getting laid or something... anything is better than baby-sitting.

 

[Outlaws]

And your belief (or attempt to make others believe) that you ran RE off this Board

I would never do that and I never tried to make others believe.

I just know I was VERY straight up with him and with my opinion of the product when I got it. And after all the hype I am left this and I don't see him around anymore. Now don't argue with this because I don't think its what happened, but being the internet and all, the word "scam" comes to mind here and there......

Speaking of lost members though........what happened to c7sus? He said that if I didn't like it he would buy it from me.......then right as the thing arives at my doorstep, he just happend to buy one from someone else.......like there are really that many of them floating around

 

[Gidge]

Ive heard what RE did with a Davisound and it was amazing......maybe, just maybe, its the person behind the gear that can make the difference between it sounding amazing and sounding "less than stellar".......

 

[Outlaws]

Ive heard what RE did with a Davisound and it was amazing......maybe, just maybe, its the person behind the gear that can make the difference between it sounding amazing and sounding "less than stellar".......

I am fully willing to except that. But when I plug a mic into the Davisound and record a sample, then plug a mic into the Roland and record the same thing. I can't really hear a difference.

BUT....


I'll tell ya what. I am going to record two samples.....maybe more......

Ya.....thats what I'll do.

I am going to record my Martin D41 with my AKG (shut up, I get it, its a shitty mic and blablalba) and do one take into the Roland and one into the Davisound.

Then I will do one with my Tele into my SuperReverb and into the Davisound and one into the Roland and place them on the net at 320kbs. I'll do it in the Rack forum later today when the house quiets down.

 

[tdukex]

I would never do that and I never tried to make others believe.

I just know I was VERY straight up with him and with my opinion of the product when I got it. And after all the hype I am left this and I don't see him around anymore. Now don't argue with this because I don't think its what happened, but being the internet and all, the word "scam" comes to mind here and there......

Speaking of lost members though........what happened to c7sus? He said that if I didn't like it he would buy it from me.......then right as the thing arives at my doorstep, he just happend to buy one from someone else.......like there are really that many of them floating around

Ok. I understand your disappointment--your anger. You feel you have been duped. It is an honest and painful perception but I believe an incorrect one.

I have only heard the Davisound stuff on RE's recordings, and it sounded very good--although my ears are not as discerning as some.

I do not believe you have tested the unit thoroughly with good mics as a stand alone unit (bypassing the Roland). As long as you are running through the Roland circuitry I believe it affects the sound.

Comparing and contrasting the quality of preamps can be a subtle and subjective endeavor. Few people agree on everything. I won't pretend to be an expert. Some experienced, credible people on this Board think the DMP3 is on par with the RNP and not that far from the Grace. Others, just as experienced and credible, adamantly disagree. I know (oops, I mean, I think)it's a lot better than my old Behringer pres.

I do have personal experience with RE and feel strongly that he is an honest man who is passionate about his craft. He has his biases, as we all do, but he is a straight shooter, and if he raves about Davisound it is because he believes wholeheartedly in the product.

I have no personal experience with Davisound, except a brief exchange of emails regarding a TB-6 about three years ago. I still wish I would have bought it but spent my money on a Meek VC1Q instead because I wanted a vox box first. Then Davisound priced themselves out of my range.

I also believe C7sus when he says he bought another unit. He can be abraisive but has never given any reason for us to believe he is anything but a straight shooter as well. I also know the person he said he was going to buy the unit from did indeed--a while back--buy a Davisound unit (unless there is some great Davisound conspiracy we didn't know about).

If it were me, I'd contact all of the parties involved (in a sincere, professional manner), and ask for their help in trying to figure out why my unit doesn't seem to be performing as well as I thought it should. If they are uncool about it, that's their bad. You made the effort--which takes character. Hell, you're in Arizona, if you were cool about it RE would probably invite you to come out to Orange County and bring your unit with you so together you could test it against other preamps (including his Davisound stuff) with various mics in a controlled setting--all while drinking a few beers. You're not that far away.

And by resolving the issue constructively (not trying but actually resolving) you will not only earn the respect of those you deal with, you will begin to exercise control over your social environment instead of it controlling you. And along the way you may even establish some profitable personal and professional relationships that will continue to pay dividends long after the initial contact. At the very least, by constructively resolving the problem, you will rid yourself of the anger and replace it with some peace of mind

End of sermon.

 

[ausrock]

Damn tduke, those posts of your's are some of the finest rhetoric I have seen on these boards in 4 years.

For what it's worth RE occasionally surfaces over at RO, but I suspect his abscence from HR has little to do with Outlaws and this virtual world and more to do with real life.

 

[crazydoc]

...Hell, you're in Arizona, if you were cool about it RE would probably invite you to come out to Orange County...

Uhh, that's Orangevale, which is a suburb east of Sacramento and a long way from Arizona (like 15 hours at 80mph with two short gas/piss breaks.)

Actually, it's right next to Folsom Prison. Maybe he's in there for disseminating fraudulent information about recording equipment.

 

[Outlaws]

My deepest appolgies to RE.

Now that I have all my equipment set up in this nice room again, I have redone my comparision which was originally done in a lest than stellar bedroom...where I could not hear the slightest bit of difference. Well I can deffinatly hear the difference now. I am sorry RE for ever doubting you, and c7sus for even allowing my mind to wonder into conspiracy land....

I am going to post them in the Rack forum the comparision. I will not be doing the acoustic comparision because I heard the difference on the electric and I don't feel I need to at the moment...I am lazy...what can I say?

While I still question if the Davisound is $1000 better than the Roland, I am fully aware of the old saying I heard somewhere..."90% of your money goes into the last 10% of your sound."

So if after you guys listen to the stuff in the rack forum, maybe let me know if that is a substancial difference in the MicPre world, or if you have heard greater differences before.

I do ask that in the next post in the Rack forum that noone say what they think is what. Noone mention this post, and noone mention what gear is being used. I want to get peoples honest opinions and I hope most haven't read this stupid thread we are in right now.

Later guys, I think my CD is done.......I gotta go check it so I can upload an MP3 or two

 

[tdukex]

Damn tduke, those posts of your's are some of the finest rhetoric I have seen on these boards in 4 years.

For what it's worth RE occasionally surfaces over at RO, but I suspect his abscence from HR has little to do with Outlaws and this virtual world and more to do with real life.

Thanks, ausrock. I remember being young and "easy to anger" once. Now I'm older and wussier.

It reminds me of that joke Robert Duvall told Sean Penn in the movie, "Colors."

Two bulls, one older and one younger, are standing on a hill overlooking their herd of cows.

Younger bull: Hey, why don't we run down there and fuck a couple of those cows.

Older bull: Why don't we walk down and fuck 'em all.

 

[tdukex]

Uhh, that's Orangevale, which is a suburb east of Sacramento and a long way from Arizona (like 15 hours at 80mph with two short gas/piss breaks.)

Actually, it's right next to Folsom Prison. Maybe he's in there for disseminating fraudulent information about recording equipment.

Oops, I guess Outlaws would have to make a looong weekend of it and bring more beer (not for the road, of course).

 

[Son of Mixerman]

Re: My deepest appolgies to RE.

While I still question if the Davisound is $1000 better than the Roland, I am fully aware of the old saying I heard somewhere..."90% of your money goes into the last 10% of your sound."

I think one of the biggest problems in evaluations between gear, is that your ears become adjusted to a particular sound in which even the sweetest of preamps would fail in comparison making us feel like we made a bad choice. It takes me along time to figure out whether I like something or not and sometimes I like stuff nobody else does. If you like it then thats all that really needs to be said. We should spend less time defending our gear and more time using it. Nothing sucks, its just a matter of application.

SoMm

 

[Fishmed]

I know what it is like to get involved with other things, as I have faded back and forth myself. While we are on the topic, where is S8-N and Slack?