What would you buy first.

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Golden said:
Yanni makes some good sounding records. That won't stop his albums from sucking hard. :D
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Imagine if he was recorded badly...... :eek:

Golden said:
I just think that great work can be done with less.
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For sure. However, it won't just happen - it will take a while and a lot of learning. I don't think throwing gear at the problem is the answer either.

Golden said:
If making a good recording is what he's after, he should look within himself.
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Absolutely. And if he wants one right now, he should find a good studio IMHO. However, my suggestions were not based on the OP's question, but SonicAlberts answer.

I hope I wasn't unclear. I truly believe that the band and the song is what really counts. But I still say if I was an A&R guy and I heard two songs from different bands that were equally as good as each other, and one sounded like a crappy home demo, and one sounded ready for airplay I'd pick the better sounding band. Wouldn't you?
 
Golden said:
For example, Britney Spears (high end gear) vs. Beck's Mellow Gold album (low end). That's my school of thought...
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I completly agree with that school of thought. It's all about the music.

That said, don't knock some of the songs Britney sings just because it's her singing them. A rock/classic R&B cover band that I work for does a power R&B version of "Drop My..."...er I mean..."Hit Me Baby One More Time" that has a great groove and always manages to swing the audience. Not exactly the most innovative song in the world (how much great rock and roll is?), but take it out of the hands of a Mousketeer and put it in the hands of a bunch of career musicians, and it's a great rocker.

Which illustrates another branch of that school of thought: The performer/performance can make or break the material as much as it can the recording.

G.
 
NL5 said:
Imagine if he was recorded badly...... :eek:
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Well, if Yanni was recorded badly, that would certainly suck, without a doubt. However, if he recorded to say... an 8-track reel to reel, and one of the tracks was the sound of a moog synthesizer dying-out as it burned to death (Yanni soloing over it), then maybe it would be worth a listen.
 
now, the original poster Chris has posted yet another song. You can hear it HERE

Is it just me, or is this a neat song? You gotta hear it the whole way through. I say, good job to Chris. and he didn't have to drop 10 grand. :D
 
Chris Jahn said:
Im thinking my next two major purchases are going to be a high quality outboard pre or two (different kinds for differnt flavors) and a summ box.

I guess what im wondering is "if you could only get one of the two things" which of you out there would get what first in terms of a device thats goin to really help the sounds progress.
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After listening to some of your stuff ...

... for starters, I'd throw money in to your guitar tone. Whether that means a better amp, guitar, pickups, or whatever. What I heard was kind of rough.

The second thing that sticks out to me is your room accoustics. They pretty much suck. Work on that, and spend some money on it. Seriously, mic pres and summing boxes would be about the very last thing I'd throw money at. That would set you back and delay things if anything. You'll still be in the same place next year wondering why your recordings haven't really gotten any better.

If a gun were to my head and it had to be recording gear ... I would put a decent outboard compressor or two at the top of my list. Your vocals will greatly improve
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SouthSIDE Glen said:
Are you accepting applications, or can anybody volunteer?
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If I literally wanted a gun to my head, I could just pay a visit to the South side of Chicago and just stand around for a while.

It's not like I'd have to go all the way to Bagdad, or even Detroit for that matter.

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Im not saying my guitars sound great, but the setup is pretty standard, most of the songs ive put up used a combo of a Les Paul deluxe through a Masrhall 900 and 1960 lead 4x12, and the same guitar through a twin reverb, or in some cases a standard american telecaster through the twin, using a fultone full drive two for distortion.

Ive been playing guitar for a long time, but im learning about the difference between live sound and recorded, its a chalenge for sure. Somone (i dont remember who) gave a compliment to the gutiar tone, its all subjective i guess, im personally not a fan of the telecaster twin verb combo, its jsut not my thing, but thats what my other guitarist uses for the most part. Sometimes we use a weird 80's "super rack" fender head through a mesa boogie 2x12 I have, thats a great sound for certain stuff.

as for the room, im stuck with what i have untill i move next month, when i build the new studio, much attention will be given to its design and treatment!!!
 
Microphones.

I don't know much. Seriously, I don't... and everybody around here knows it, but your mics seem to be a weaker area in your gear than the pres on the firepod.
 
Yeah, could be, or just lack of knowing how to use them well yet!!! I tried a combo of the sm57 and the sennheiser, the 57 to the left of center and a little off axis, and the senn dead center both about 4" away, its the best sound ive gotten so far, it can be heard on the "first song i record that wasnt my own band" post, its on the electric on the right side of the mix, the acoustic on the left was an entirely differnt situation, but so far its the best electric sound ive recorded in my opinion.
 
chessrock said:
If I literally wanted a gun to my head, I could just pay a visit to the South side of Chicago and just stand around for a while.
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Hahaha. What a clueless pansy :).

G.
 
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