What size speakers??

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Hi, I have a new small home studio - it is 3.6 x 3.8 metres ( about 11 x 12 feet) and am looking at buying my first set fo studio monitors. I was wondering about help for what size speaker I should target to suit a room that size. Thanks
 
IMHO, there is no correlation.

The speakers don't fit the room; the speakers need to fit your ears. Then, once you have the right speakers for your ears, the room needs to fit the speakers to make sure it doesn't mess with them too badly. Get something that sounds the way your ears like first, and if your room messes with that when you get them home, then treat the room.

G.
 
Would it be safe to say that a room with bigger louder lower speakers would need more acoustical treatment?
 
Would it be safe to say that a room with bigger louder lower speakers would need more acoustical treatment?
Not automatically and necessarily, I don't think. A couple of points:

- The acoustic properties of a room, left to their own devices, do not change because the loudspeaker changes. It response characteristics will remain exactly the same (save any tiny differences because of the amount of surface area taken up by the size of the speaker cabinets themselves.) The bass nodes at each frequency will remain in the exact same locations and will crest and trough by the exact same amount, regardless of the speaker installed.

- Considering a room of approximately 10ft in length or width equals one full wavelength at about 112Hz, a room that size without treatment is going to have problems with nodeing and bass development across over more than half of bass frequencies, well into the limited range of even smaller speaker elements like 5" or 6" woof woofs. Might as well get a speaker you like the sound of, since you're going to need treatment anyway.

- Lowering the frequency response does not necessarily mean adding a whole lot more treatment so much as; it means making sure your treatment, in the form of bass trapping, remains an efficient trap at those lower frequencies.

- Woofer size is not a direct indicator of bass response anyway. I've heard 9" woofs that put out lower and sharper bass than some 12" models (I've used both sized for mixing and monitoring in the past) as well as some 6"ers that performed better than some 10"ers. There's way too much involved in loudspeaker design to be able to draw a flat line between woofer size and bass response, let alone woofer size and room size.

G.
 
I have heard a listening position can be to close on large systems due to the physical separation of the drivers.
 
I have heard a listening position can be to close on large systems due to the physical separation of the drivers.
That can happen, sure. But it can also sometimes not happen.

When I first started out, I was mixing on Utah 12" 3-ways in a room about the size of what shednz is talking about. This was back when the NS-10 was pretty much brand new and the idea of "nearfield" hadn't really taken hold yet. I parked my butt about 1/3rd of the way from the rear wall and mounted the speakers off the front wall, and it actually worked pretty good for me at the time. (In fact there are many times when I'd like to go back to that kind of configuration; it just "felt" more natural than the oversized headphone configuration of nearfields,

On a 2-way like most nearfields, driver separation isn't much of an issue IME. Sometimes if you have the tweeters spread too wide between channels it can cause a hole in the middle of the image, but that would be typically addressed by moving the monitors closer together.

Besides, none of that - whether true or untrue - could translate into some kind of formula that for a room of X size you want or need a woofer of size Y.

G.
 
I am in a similar situation, looking for new monitors in my new home studio of similar size, and just wanted to say that I found your advice really helpful.

Thanks!

Lee J.
 
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