regebro
Insane Genious!
I thought this would be an interesting little poll.
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Roel
That SMART guy.
Alesis Monitor One...
Don't know if it was a good buy at the time. I bought them together with my A90. I allready had the yamaha M2600 amp, and needed speakers to play piano. I'm happy with the piano-sound...
I have been thinking (alot) of upgrading the amp. This should be the weakest link, my guess...
Don't know if it was a good buy at the time. I bought them together with my A90. I allready had the yamaha M2600 amp, and needed speakers to play piano. I'm happy with the piano-sound...
I have been thinking (alot) of upgrading the amp. This should be the weakest link, my guess...
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CyanJaguar
New member
I use freaking Alesis monitor two studio monitors.
I know I know, y'all warned me, but I had read so many bad things about the ns10ms and the guy really wanted the nasties so I let him have them.
the problem with them is that they are too forgiving. In other words, everything sounds good on them.
Also, the lowend is very uncooperative. If it sounds nice here, it sounds a litle bit mushy on other systems.
TO compensate, I had to turn the bass on my amo from 0 to +1
I know I know, y'all warned me, but I had read so many bad things about the ns10ms and the guy really wanted the nasties so I let him have them.
the problem with them is that they are too forgiving. In other words, everything sounds good on them.
Also, the lowend is very uncooperative. If it sounds nice here, it sounds a litle bit mushy on other systems.
TO compensate, I had to turn the bass on my amo from 0 to +1
Buck62
噛んでくれ
Event 20/20bas..... one of my best investments! 
nessbass
New member
hey you guys that voted for Tannoy reveals: what do you think of them? I'm using my stereo at the moment and thought about having some Reveals around.
What do y'all think of the Genelec 1029a?
David
What do y'all think of the Genelec 1029a?
David
Tekker
New member
Although I don't have them yet I went ahead and put the YSM1s, because I'm definitly planning on getting the YSM1 actives when they come out.
regebro
Insane Genious!
Originally posted by nessbass
hey you guys that voted for Tannoy reveals: what do you think of them?
It's not a voting, its a poll!
My thoughs on the Reveal Actives can be found in http://lennart.regebro.nu/music/revealactive/
I haven't done much comparing to other speakers though.
hey you guys that voted for Tannoy reveals: what do you think of them?
It's not a voting, its a poll!
My thoughs on the Reveal Actives can be found in http://lennart.regebro.nu/music/revealactive/
I haven't done much comparing to other speakers though.
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gordone
Well-known member
nessbass said:
I like my Active Reveals alot...When shopping I was pretty much set on these based on online reviews and BBS discussions. I went into my local Sam Ash with a CD of folkie music (I do mostly acoustic guitar based stuff), and listened to them in their listening room (which happened to have an Apogee DA converter between the CD player and the speakers), I really liked what I heard. I also listened to the infamous Yamaha NS10s and they sounded a lot wimpier to me (might have had something to do with the amp they used).
After having them for almost a year, my mixes sound much better than they did before when I was using a 15 year old stereo receiver and a pair of AIWA speakers from an old mini system. (during that time I also upgraded other stuff like ditching the Minidisc for PC/Delta 44/N-Track, getting a Great River pre, and a Soundelux U97, so the speakers are just one link a a big chain!)
Sorry for rambling, Coffee has that effect on me!
-Evan
kristian
New member
my girlfriend's dad's surround sound system in the TV room is kitted out with genelec 1029a i noticed. i almost bust my lid, because he just has 5 laying around like its no big deal. and we all know that a pair costs a decent amount of cash. i went and listened to them (i was thinking of stealing them ) and i dont know where they create their bass from... smal box so there is not too much reflex potential... so im skeptical about their actual worth. 20/20bas all the way!
) and i dont know where they create their bass from... smal box so there is not too much reflex potential... so im skeptical about their actual worth. 20/20bas all the way!
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tlaskows
New member
Tekker said:
You might be lucky. Check out www.yorkville.com. It looks like the ysm-1p monitors are out. The list price is 400 canadian, or around 320us. They also have a new version of the ysm-1, called ysm-1i. Basically the same speaker, but updated look (is it really better looking tho?, i dont think so)
Thomas
sonusman
Banned
I only have one "monitor", and it is a Sylvania F89, 19".
I am not sure if it is even SVGA. But it sure is cool! $300 at Costco about a year or so ago.
Aside from that silliness, I tainted the vote by voting Other. I use Event 20/20's, the passive ones.
Darn good monitor, and in a well treated control room, very accurate. But then again, I have been using them for over 4 years now, mostly in not so great rooms.
I think I need to make a point about monitors, and previewing them.
Most preview them either in a: a music store b: someone elses home studio.
In either case, I don't think you are hearing the "real" speaker, because in both cases, you are not in a proper acoustic environment to assess how they actually sound.
I was lucky when I previewed the Events years ago because the pro audio shop I bought them at had a room that a lot of their best equipment was in, and it was a very neutrual space for listening.
The Events went up against the best JBL had to offer, and a few others that were big then, and they just downright had far more detail in the sound then the others. The low end was much more appearent too!
So, when you preview monitors (the speaker type...) make sure you do so in a good room that isn't coloring the sound, or causing phase cacellation, etc.....
A good thing to do is to take a CD that you are very intimate with to listen to them on. Make sure that the store has a very nice unit for playing CD's, not some sham Walkman hooked up to a console! Play the CD and get yourself into the proper position to listen to the monitors, which for nearfields would be the speakers about 3-4 feet apart, and you that same distance from both speakers. You are forming a triangle here. That is the sweet spot of the speakers. Any farther then 3-4 feet and you start to get more of the "room" coming into play. There are other factors with distance from the speaker that come into play, but I won't go into them here. Just make sure you are listening to all the monitors in a proper listening environment.
Even though you may not buy them at a pro audio shop, you may want to go to one to listen to them. You can be assured that they will probably have a really good amp powering them, and the speakers will be placed right, and possibly that the room is suitable to accurately assessing the speakers.
Play your CD and LISTEN! Are you hearing at least as much, preferably MORE detail in the sound then you are used to in your main playback system at home? Does there seem to be any frequencies, or a range of them that are off balanced with the others? Do you wince at all while listening to them?
You will want to turn them up a bit too. You WILL need to monitor at louder levels from time to time, and you will want to know if those boxes start to sound really different with more power going to them.
A point I cannot emphasize enough about monitors is that EVERY company will say THEIRS are flat. Funny how they say that, but some other company claims that another companies monitors ARE NOT flat. Take that as a lesson about specs. Don't believe spec's!
Once you have those nice nifty new monitors, START LISTENING TO AS MUCH MUSIC AS YOU CAN THROUGH THEM!!!! Listen to everything! Your own recordings, professionally recorded CD's, etc......Try to use the same D/A converters at all times if possible.
The idea is that you need to "learn" your new monitors. You need to be intimately familiar with how well recorded CD's sound on them so you have a basis for you own work. I listen to very little music aside from my Events, and this helps me stay familiar with how they sound so my own productions sound more in line with professional work (well, I guess my work is professional because I get paid, but you know what I mean....).
Also, start peaking around in the Studio Design forum on this site and start learning about how your acoustical environment effects what you are doing. You can have some damn Meyers and they will sound like dog do in a badly treated room. Bad rooms mean unpredictable results from your monitors. I suppose you can "learn" your room too, even in good rooms you have to learn it, but why make things worse on yourself? Do some sound treatments, as much "proper" treatment as you can afford if you want to have some confidence in what you are hearing through your monitors. Refer to the thread "Foam behind monitors" in the Studio Design forum for more details about all this. It is a great thread so far.
Don't look for the cheapest monitor out their. There are usually perfectly good reasons why they are so cheap, and they are not good for your audio production work. Monitors are providing a "mechnical" transformation of sound, and they are your "ears" in the rest of your signal path. You don't need killer $5k monitors to have good ones, but I don't think less then a few hundred bucks is a good idea either.
Anyway, here I am carrying on, when all's that you wanted was to know what I use!
Ed
I am not sure if it is even SVGA. But it sure is cool! $300 at Costco about a year or so ago.
Aside from that silliness, I tainted the vote by voting Other. I use Event 20/20's, the passive ones.
Darn good monitor, and in a well treated control room, very accurate. But then again, I have been using them for over 4 years now, mostly in not so great rooms.
I think I need to make a point about monitors, and previewing them.
Most preview them either in a: a music store b: someone elses home studio.
In either case, I don't think you are hearing the "real" speaker, because in both cases, you are not in a proper acoustic environment to assess how they actually sound.
I was lucky when I previewed the Events years ago because the pro audio shop I bought them at had a room that a lot of their best equipment was in, and it was a very neutrual space for listening.
The Events went up against the best JBL had to offer, and a few others that were big then, and they just downright had far more detail in the sound then the others. The low end was much more appearent too!
So, when you preview monitors (the speaker type...
) make sure you do so in a good room that isn't coloring the sound, or causing phase cacellation, etc.....A good thing to do is to take a CD that you are very intimate with to listen to them on. Make sure that the store has a very nice unit for playing CD's, not some sham Walkman hooked up to a console! Play the CD and get yourself into the proper position to listen to the monitors, which for nearfields would be the speakers about 3-4 feet apart, and you that same distance from both speakers. You are forming a triangle here. That is the sweet spot of the speakers. Any farther then 3-4 feet and you start to get more of the "room" coming into play. There are other factors with distance from the speaker that come into play, but I won't go into them here. Just make sure you are listening to all the monitors in a proper listening environment.
Even though you may not buy them at a pro audio shop, you may want to go to one to listen to them. You can be assured that they will probably have a really good amp powering them, and the speakers will be placed right, and possibly that the room is suitable to accurately assessing the speakers.
Play your CD and LISTEN! Are you hearing at least as much, preferably MORE detail in the sound then you are used to in your main playback system at home? Does there seem to be any frequencies, or a range of them that are off balanced with the others? Do you wince at all while listening to them?
You will want to turn them up a bit too. You WILL need to monitor at louder levels from time to time, and you will want to know if those boxes start to sound really different with more power going to them.
A point I cannot emphasize enough about monitors is that EVERY company will say THEIRS are flat. Funny how they say that, but some other company claims that another companies monitors ARE NOT flat. Take that as a lesson about specs. Don't believe spec's!
Once you have those nice nifty new monitors, START LISTENING TO AS MUCH MUSIC AS YOU CAN THROUGH THEM!!!! Listen to everything! Your own recordings, professionally recorded CD's, etc......Try to use the same D/A converters at all times if possible.
The idea is that you need to "learn" your new monitors. You need to be intimately familiar with how well recorded CD's sound on them so you have a basis for you own work. I listen to very little music aside from my Events, and this helps me stay familiar with how they sound so my own productions sound more in line with professional work (well, I guess my work is professional because I get paid, but you know what I mean....).
Also, start peaking around in the Studio Design forum on this site and start learning about how your acoustical environment effects what you are doing. You can have some damn Meyers and they will sound like dog do in a badly treated room. Bad rooms mean unpredictable results from your monitors. I suppose you can "learn" your room too, even in good rooms you have to learn it, but why make things worse on yourself? Do some sound treatments, as much "proper" treatment as you can afford if you want to have some confidence in what you are hearing through your monitors. Refer to the thread "Foam behind monitors" in the Studio Design forum for more details about all this. It is a great thread so far.
Don't look for the cheapest monitor out their. There are usually perfectly good reasons why they are so cheap, and they are not good for your audio production work. Monitors are providing a "mechnical" transformation of sound, and they are your "ears" in the rest of your signal path. You don't need killer $5k monitors to have good ones, but I don't think less then a few hundred bucks is a good idea either.
Anyway, here I am carrying on, when all's that you wanted was to know what I use!
Ed
Tekker
New member
tlaskows,
Thanx for the info, it sure looks like the YSM1ps are out it to me too. I had heard that they were going to be coming out in the summer so this is too cool!! As soon as I get the $$$ they're all mine.
Thanx for the info, it sure looks like the YSM1ps are out it to me too. I had heard that they were going to be coming out in the summer so this is too cool!! As soon as I get the $$$ they're all mine.
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Ray J
New member
Something other..... Man, I hate to post this after that thesis by sonusman but, after pricing monitors, and blowing a wad on the other stuff that I needed, there was never any doubt that the $84 Rolands were the monitors for me. MAA8k something or other. They're really not very good but I'm beginning to get acclaimated to them and they are now functional, with some cross referencing. I think eventually, I'll be able to nail a mix on them.
I know I'm not the only one using them so, anyone else finding these little gems functional? Or are you too ashamed to post?
Ray J
I know I'm not the only one using them so, anyone else finding these little gems functional? Or are you too ashamed to post?
Ray J
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aliengroover
New member
Alesis Monitor Ones. They have never steered me wrong. After having them for years (got them a short while after they came out), I'm totally comfortable with them. And Sonusman was on point. I listen to everything on my monitors, and always have. To add to that "listening in the store" thing (this is a little off topic, but bears saying), it's the same with keyboards and other gear. They are so pumped up and EQ'd in the store that you never really hear the gear as is. I've been disappointed in the past with some gear after I got it home. But I've learned.
Peace
Peace
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The Green Hornet
New member
Yo Regebro:]
I just got a pair of Yorkville YSM-1 monitors.
For the money, THEY ARE VERY GOOD.
Clear and clean.
Green Hornet
I just got a pair of Yorkville YSM-1 monitors.
For the money, THEY ARE VERY GOOD.
Clear and clean.
Green Hornet
SPINSTERWUN
Active member
I use the Event 20/20's.
I think IMHO the 20/20's are the "bang for the buck".
peace...
Spinsterwun the Sound Chemist.
I think IMHO the 20/20's are the "bang for the buck".
peace...
Spinsterwun the Sound Chemist.
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KaBudokan
New member
YSM-1's here... I bought them from Daddy's Junky for $89 for the pair.
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jrlemonz
New member
Pro Audio 2012's.
Jake
Jake
MONTE
New member
I've got a pair of Tannoy PBM-6.5 monitors......................
Anybody want to buy 'em?
Anybody want to buy 'em?
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Singking
New member
Yamaha NS-10M Studio Monitors
I just wanted to add my 2 cents about the Yamaha NS-10Ms. They were my first Studio Monitors and I really learned a lot from them. Crappy sounds Crappy on them. I had the opportunity to audition the non-powered Event 20/20s and thought that they had better low end response, but something I thought was questionable on the NS-10Ms, sounded good on the Events. I have been to a lot of major studios and most of them have the NS-10Ms. Some have both the NS-10ms and the Events. In discussions with the engineers and producers, nobody came clean about what is best - a large number of experienced engineers grew up on the NS-10Ms and they all maintain that if it sounds good on them, it will sound good anywhere. I had both the Events and NS-10Ms in the studio for a couple of months - the good thing about the Events is that it sometimes helped a less than perfect performance sound better. If I had a client that I wanted to make sound good, I used the
Events - They ended up being happy. When I listened back through the Yamahas, they were definitely more critical. But we all know - If it sounds good, it is good. Peace.
I just wanted to add my 2 cents about the Yamaha NS-10Ms. They were my first Studio Monitors and I really learned a lot from them. Crappy sounds Crappy on them. I had the opportunity to audition the non-powered Event 20/20s and thought that they had better low end response, but something I thought was questionable on the NS-10Ms, sounded good on the Events. I have been to a lot of major studios and most of them have the NS-10Ms. Some have both the NS-10ms and the Events. In discussions with the engineers and producers, nobody came clean about what is best - a large number of experienced engineers grew up on the NS-10Ms and they all maintain that if it sounds good on them, it will sound good anywhere. I had both the Events and NS-10Ms in the studio for a couple of months - the good thing about the Events is that it sometimes helped a less than perfect performance sound better. If I had a client that I wanted to make sound good, I used the
Events - They ended up being happy. When I listened back through the Yamahas, they were definitely more critical. But we all know - If it sounds good, it is good. Peace.
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