illest1029
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Can anyone send me a link..or just give me sme details on what exactly mastering is?
illest1029 said:Can anyone send me a link..or just give me sme details on what exactly mastering is?
masteringhouse said:
Altaire said:So Tom, as far as creating the final track arrangement the mastering house designates the in and out fade points for the songs? or do you need the album already arranged for reference and then have the individual songs to be mastered seperately.
Also, you want stuff to be already mixed down to one track, or you want to be able to make adjustments to the individual tracks optimally
just tryin to get an idea
SonicAlbert said:It's interesting to read some of these comments regarding the handling of fades.
For me, if a fade is an integral part of the end of the song, then I usually have a very specific way I'll want the fade to happen. How long it will be, where it starts, where the final fade to silence is, etc. It really has to feel like part of the song, so just telling a mastering engineer "fade out at the end" is not good enough. It really has to sound and "feel" right to me.
So I do my own fades. But most of my music doesn't end with fades, so it's not that big of an issue for me.
Agreed. In a way, the fade is really part of the mix.SonicAlbert said:It's interesting to read some of these comments regarding the handling of fades.
For me, if a fade is an integral part of the end of the song, then I usually have a very specific way I'll want the fade to happen. How long it will be, where it starts, where the final fade to silence is, etc. It really has to feel like part of the song, so just telling a mastering engineer "fade out at the end" is not good enough. It really has to sound and "feel" right to me.
For myself, I'm very particular with fades, but if a project is to be mastered, I prefer to let the ME do it -- so in that case I'll usually provide some specific instructions, timepoints, and even the taper so that they understand precisely where I want it.SouthSIDE Glen said:Agreed. In a way, the fade is really part of the mix.
However, I also agree with Tom that inherent fades can present problems - or at least complicate - the mastering itself. Sometimes just a little compression or EQ applied to the mixdown can change the character of the fade to the point where it doesn't sound "right" any more.
I think this is probably the reason why Tom suggested that one could send two mixes, one with fade and one without. The fade one will serve as the example of how the fade is desired in duration, envelope, etc., and then the ME can apply it after all other processing is done.
G.
LemonTree said:Mastering is where they squash all the dynamics out the song you spent hours, even days mixing
J/K
Think of mastering like the final icing on the cake you just spent hours bakeing. Being able to make a good cake is one thing, but putting the icing on is a totaly different ball game best left to the pros. I've been mixing for about 12 years now and I wouldn't dream of trying to master anything on my own. Don't get me wrong, I've tried and the results compare to buying a ferrari, paying to have it custom tuned then deciding to paint it myself with a 4" brush and some emulsion paint
Blue Bear Sound said:For myself, I'm very particular with fades, but if a project is to be mastered, I prefer to let the ME do it -- so in that case I'll usually provide some specific instructions, timepoints, and even the taper so that they understand precisely where I want it.
masteringhouse said:True, and if it's a bad cake, it's still a bad cake only with icing.
mixandmaster said:I agree with Tom.
I vote that every fade should be replaced by the "shave and a haircut riff" ending.Blue Bear Sound said:Jay's right -- fades suck!
I think no-fades should be a new rule! (Not a guideline, a RULE!!!)
Or the ending to Smoke on the Water on the Made in Japan album.SouthSIDE Glen said:I vote that every fade should be replaced by the "shave and a haircut riff" ending.
G.