What do you use for drums

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Hey!

I am looking to use my fl studio and acoustic drum samples for my drum parts. With what I have this will yeild simple drum parts that sound decent but without much dynamics.

What do you folks use for your drums in sonar or other cakewalk products? What strategy do you use - song layout, count-ins, what do you do first, how long does it take, what way is easiest, etc.

Do any of you use loops? I have looked at the beta-monkey site which looks interesting. I'm not sure how I would like that stuff tho cause the samples all sound very busy - complex - and most of the music I like best doesn't have such busy drummers.

Im thinking charlie watts or ringo. It seems like it would be difficult to get vintage sounds as drum samples sound pretty high fidelity and high-impact compared to vintage rock n roll sounds on discs.

Any info is greatly appreciated!!!
 
I have several discs from Beta Monkey and the quality is top-knotch. You are right, he is a busy player with a heavy touch. There is a lot of double kick stuff, but there are a few sets here and there that are more laid-back.

If you go about trying to fit loops to a song you've already written, it is a very long and frustrating process. If you think of all the beat divisions in a measure that could be emphasized, it is sheer luck if you find a loop that emphasizes the exact ones in your strumming pattern.

If you can go the other way - put together drums first, and then write a song around that - then loops are a great way to go. Unfortunately, that's not the way my creative process works. ;)

But, like I said, the quality of the drumming and recording on the Beta Monkey loops themselves is excellent.
 
Personally, I use BFD. I know a lot of others that use DFHS (Drumkit From Hell Superior). Both are excellent.
 
I have some loops, and also DFHS. Loops are easy, I usually use them for my click. Then, If I don't have a real drummer, I try and program something with DFHS....But I am very fortunate to know a few really good drummers, and they help me out when I have a decent idea....
 
I have had the beta monkey loops for a year and they're ...OK. I need some (better) straight-up loops/beats between 70 and 100bpm- basic blues-rock maybe country. The BML are just too busy, too bright, snares are too snappy and cut-your-ear ..ouch. You get loops from 50bpm to 180bpm on a CD, and so you may find that you are only interested in a limited BPM range for your music, and really have VERY few loops worth considering. They have different drum kits in the same folder, so it's impossible to find a decent fill to match the basis loop.....wheee...I guess that I feel that I have wasted too much time trying to 'make them work'....
Maybe, my expectations were too high and I need to work harder to 'craft' them into a acceptable form.....

RAMI has the right idea ....play your own!...... I wish...rant rant..sorry :confused:


mcmd
 
Depends on what sort of music I am creating/recording. I mainly use Stylus RMX for Studio drums with the BackBeat expansion library which is especially good for guitar backing, but I also use Fxpansion BFD occasionaly or GURU. Stylus I like best because I can get it up and running very fast.

But I have a host of other drum programs; I have all the Stylus expansion libraries plus Latigo and Darbuka; AfroLatin Slam, Beats working in Cuba, StormDrum, DKFH and Battery to mention just a few. These I use to develop sound tracks to films/videos and presentations or trance music.

I also have a lot of loops and soundfonts but it really depends on what I want to do; what music I am recording.
 
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