what about using Two Different Overheadmics for drums?

[earworm]

now.... got a little budget problem, can't afford a matched overheads pair,
i can buy me some cheap ass mics right away, but don't like doing that since i know i'll have to throw them away after a while....

so maybe.......i can try to get me one extra condenser and use it together with my AKG c414 ?
don't know what kinda effect that would give...does that give a fckt up stereo image,,,something unstable or dirty...
or might it even be OK ?

recording hiphop is 'easy' .. but when the hardcore bands start knocking on my door...;auch....then i'll have to dig deep into my wallet

 

[HangDawg]

Nothing wrong with 1 overhead mic either.

 

[Track Rat]

Maybe pick up a cardiod condensor, put the 414 in figure 8 and do M/S over heads.

 

[Cloneboy Studio]

IMHO if you don't have identical mics I'd use a single overhead... otherwise you're going to be creating a really weird stereo image that more often than not will be bad.

I'd rather have one good mic than two average mics on overheads.

AKG C2000's are good for overheads, as are Rode NT1's. Both mics are 199 new.

 

[earworm]

thats my problem, i don't like buying the cheapest stuff,
i love doing investigation to find something nice that suits my needs,

two NT1's ... doesn't sound bad to me, used that mic for vocals and recording some samples of "weird sounds i made in a studio"
but ehm.....isn't it gonna sound harsh on the cymbals...
if i'm correct cymbals can sound a bit annoying at around 8kz, is that it,
and the NT1 has a boost at around 11 khz

or are it all rumours and will the mic do an OK job

 

[manning1]

earworm. cad gxl mics are 50 bucks. you wont beat them for the money.
put two overhead in xy, trigger the snare and kik with samples in a sampler.
if you cant get a great drum sound with this set up, then work on the drum kit sound itself and tuning. a lot of it is room sound as well.
i urge you to try this approach.

 

[Cloneboy Studio]

Rode NT1's are pretty nice mics. Try to locate older, not made in China ones from the 80's. Even store bought NT1's aren't bad. One of the better 200 dollar mics.

In the 80's they were used all the time for drum overheads.

IMHO cymbals sound good around 8khz... I usually give a 7khz and 14khz boost to mine.

 

[Robertt8]

I was dealing with this issue as well...

hey!

I also had questions about this as I wanted to record drums, and all I had was the SPB1 and the SPC1. I was thinking of even buying another B1 or C1, and trying those after I'd heard a test clip of C1's used as a stereo pair. But alas, the lack of money prevailed, and I ended up just using the B1 and the C1 as overhead on drums, and I think it came out pretty good without any weird sonic issues...granted, they are both made by the same company, but I think they sound close enough a like to be used.

(I've got the recording if you wanna hear...

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I'm not exactly sure how this helps besides suggesting to get a cheap decent pair like the B1's or just get another mic that might sound close to your other mic...bear in mind that even mics can very widely in sound, so even getting another AKG might not guarantee that they sound the same.

 

[jkvd]

I'm still really fond of recording the kit with one ambient (NT1, take the time and move it about). Mic the kick and snare to bring them a bit upfront in de mix. Sometimes I but the snare a bit out of the centre to make it a bit more stereo.

Robert Tait=> I like your stuff...