What´s the most desirable Squier?

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COOLCAT said:
Just be careful not to chip the paint while your pounding the wood-chunk in there with your hammer.:p
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Nothing will be able to stop me from pounding that Squire to a pulp if I ever start bashing down a piece of wood into it.

There'll be paint chips flying left, right and centre
 
what kind of Squier do you have anyway? sounds like your in pain with it? :p

hey how about if you don't like your Squiers just put a FENDER or GIBSON decal on it!! that will make the single coils and humbuckers and alder and maple woods sound better!!

all this massive bombardment of gear burns me out afta while. DECAL BS.

its embarrasing how they brainwash people into whats good or bad gear, based on cost then they run up the cost and slap a logo on it and add another $800.

IMO..the only thing makes sense is the collectors and resale dewds making cha-ching off this marketing brainwash DECAL LOGO game.

the players just almost look stupid or like zombies...glaring into the decal....they have to SEE the decal that says MADE IN USA....or else 99% of the time they couldn't tell it by playing or hearing the gear.


posthumous.
Squier 51....:D

wiki says 51 is cool
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier_'51
 
I've played some Mexican Strats and even Japanese Strats (made in the mid to late 90's) that were well worth the 300.00 they were going for then. They had solid wood bodies, unlike the plywood and particle board bodies of the indonesian/korean crap, decent necks/frets, and with a simple pickup upgrade and possibly new bridge/saddles- you had a guitar that cost less than half of an American Standard, but played 90% as well.

If I wanted a strat these days I would look into squiers, take the trem cover off and inspect the body real well, and from the get-go plan to swap MIM pickups. If I could afford the American Standard then well...... I'd go spend that money on a G&L or build it myself. Its ridiculous what MIM Fenders are costing now.
 
I dunno what sort it is. It's about 4 or 5 years old. I have basically never played it. Since day one it's been crap.

You can tell quality just by picking up a guitar. My Squire is like a toothpick neck with a balsa wood and pine body. The good Strats are just better in every department. They feel much more solid. The attention to detail is supurb whereas it looks like Mr Magoo oversaw the finer points of the Squire.

My Squire definately is one of the real low end Squires. It's pitiful. I can't believe I bought it.
 
I like the feel

I like the feel of the neck and bodies, but there are major intonation issues on every Squier I've tried. The pickups and strings suck, too. The necks feel great, but again, the rest of the guitar is junk. The headstock looks cool though.

I plan to use one I got free for weird rhythmic manipulation. I don't know enough about fixing guitars (I have trouble changing STRINGS) to really want to fool around with that thing.

On a related note, Epiphone makes some great guitars, but don't get me wrong, they're not all at the same level. A friend has an Epiphone Les Paul, one of the cheaper ones. While it looks good and sounds okay, there's intonation issues too.

Alot of electric guitars have issues with intonation, but I think Squier is particularly bad. Nowadays people are so into metal and junk that I don't anyone is even checking anymore. I mean, if your band is based around the idea that you sound "bad" really really LOUD, who cares if the notes are off? Or if it tunes right? Or stays in tune? It just needs super loud electronics and a neck that's easy to play on.
 
the materials. it makes for good conversations over beers. like talking about wood and laquer thickness and better screws and pickguard plates. its a cool hobby.

Guitars are a lot about "vibe" and when I hold a $3500 LP and look at my checkbook and bills, its not a very good vibe.:p

the put downs of Squier and cheaper budget guitars, thats exactly the same attitude toward Leo Fender dealt with in the beginning of Fender!!
all the other maker-luthiers cringed and laughed at "a bolt on neck!!!a kids toy!! Car paint!!! Electric!!! what a joke!!".


Squiers and Epiphone's are made for the people without money. its that simple. IMO.
What I sense is a lot of fear from people who spent $3000 on a guitar and they seem to be the ones defending their "money" decision and putting down the budget guitars. Or the "Decal" obsession, is another interesting topic of brain science.
Or they didn't know what to look for and bought some piece of shit? Whose fault is that, the guitars?

So I don't get it? Sounds like you either need to get a new guitar and spend more time picking out the next one? Maybe a setup would help?
Or save up $2500 and get one with "real" Wood and better paint and a different decal?

but to say SQUIER Guitars ALL suck...thats funny,

don't tell that to XTC who used Squiers on their platinum album in 1995...

peter pumpkin head came to town...XTC.


it's all good.


Try the Squier 51?
its just one big cool vote. imo.
maybe u can try one out, set it up, modify it....
enjoy, with only dropping $100-150 not $500 to $5000.

to me the 51 is there in the GOOD CHEAP BUDGET GEAR book.
with the Epi Valve Jr, The RNC, DMP3.... of course the 51 is discontinued!!:eek:

the 51 is possibly one of the best things Squier did and the executive suits shut it down! now thats fried.......:D
 
I used to have a US Strat once, with a nice Fender Twin Reverb amp...but I sold them. I can't believe it. I bought the Squire because I wasn't playing much electric at the time and, yeah, it was a brain explosion. I paid about $180 American. Zara's right in my case...terrible intonation and fist smashing tuning problems.

I'm spending the money next time. Have to save up first though
 
I think the most important thing nowadays is to just be careful what you buy. There are some expensive guitars that aren't all that great, (ie, just there for looks), and a lot that don't fit your personal style. If you look around, you can probably find a really nice guitar for a low cost, but you've got to face facts, a lot of the expensive guitars are indeed good guitars.

Not to justify the immense markups and price inflation, but to deny that a vintage Martin steel string is a really good guitar, just because it's expensive, is as idiotic as saying that any guitar under 200$ is going to suck.

There is generally an EXPECTATION of higher workmanship and quality in higher end guitars, not necessarily a guarantee. If you're buying a guitar for a 100$, you probably aren't expecting much. Thereby, if it's not a great guitar, maybe some kid'll get it as a gift, and the company doesn't lose any money over it. Maybe you like fixing cheap guitars. Maybe you just like it as it is. Hey, considering how many they sell to beginners and the do-it-yourself types, the company isn't gonna lose any serious money if you return it. However, if your guitar cost 32,000$ and you're pissed with it, they're losing a good chunk of money.

Then again, plenty of people automatically flock to the most expensive guitars, and don't look around for similar, but less expensive models.

I've got a Washburn OE30, and it's a great guitar. I'm actually really glad I didn't end going for an Epiphone Dot, cause it's just as good. I paid 110$ because they're not making them and everyone's slicing down prices, but it used to go for 300$+. It's not an extremely expensive guitar, but it's a wonderful instrument, and I got it 290$ cheaper than an Epiphone Dot. I've honestly never played the Gibson E335 that they're both based off, but I bet it's nice. I just don't see there's enough of a difference to pay 900$ more.

Then again, I've got a 300$ classical guitar that was made in China. It sounds real nice, and it's got no intonation or tuning problems. Is it a Spanish-made, hand crafted instrument made by master luthiers? Hell no, but I can see that it's not in the same class as those.

Now, I don't mind buying guitars made overseas. I know, I'm supporting outsourcing, but really everything else in my life is pretty unavoidably connected to it as well. I'm not doing any good avoiding some great instruments just because I'm not making some more money for the American Fender branch. There's a trade-off, though. You get lower quality control, but you're saving a lot of money, and you might end up with something as good or better. Even if it's not quite as good, is that really a good reason to spend 200$ more?

Even if you're getting a really expensive guitar from a really well-known and respected manufacturer, you run the ultimate risks of not liking it. Even if it's a buzzy, poorly assembled pile of cardboard with some rubber bands stretched across it, maybe you'll find some use in it. That's really all that counts.
 
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Monkey Allen said:
I used to have a US Strat once, with a nice Fender Twin Reverb amp...but I sold them. I can't believe it. I bought the Squire because I wasn't playing much electric at the time and, yeah, it was a brain explosion. I paid about $180 American. Zara's right in my case...terrible intonation and fist smashing tuning problems.

I'm spending the money next time. Have to save up first though
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I've owned a US Gibson LP ...A few US Strats...a Gibson E335.... and other "US" logo's... some sucked really bad, some were dreams to play.
sold or traded them all off...
owned a few Squiers, some frkn great, some sucked, and off brand Offshore models... same

the difference's can be very subtle imo, if you take your time and search out a good one. I remember the Squier Butterscotch Tele $99 or $89 sale...and I played a bunch of Tele's that day, and it felt better to me than a few $1300 Teles. So go figure?

This thread is making me think about the setups?

What about the setup?

The best guitar I enjoyed the most, to date, was the only one that was brand new and setup by a real pro fulltime instrument dewd before I took it home.
He did violins, etc... and man was it so frkn nice....perfect. imo.

the setup...neck, bridge, nut, pickup height.... fret's... ????
 
I must admit, I have never had my Squire set up. But I really don't think it would make any difference.

I haven't needed an electric for ages, but lately there's been some songs I'm trying to do that I want to put some sweet licks on. That's kind of why I got the shitty Squire in the first place...I just thought, ah, I only want it for little bits and pieces here and there. But the hunk of junk can't even do that.

Also, cool, talking about setups...I've had good and bad outcomes with people. I had one guy set up my Taylor 110 like it was his kid he was sending off for his forst day of school. He loved it and put everything into it. I also had other guys who were shit.

I sometimes wonder how people like Bob Dylan, The Beatles or any of those types when they first started out, afforded good quality instruments...and if they knew themselves the finer points of the set up field of expertise. Was there as wide a range back then...or was it like your grandpa says..."back then they made stuff to last, not like the junk you get today"...so back then were all the instruments basically more skilfully made? I guess they wouldn't have had as dedicated automation/ production lines then...especially for acoustics.

Anyhoo...
 
Zarathustra said:
I've got a Washburn OE30, and it's a great guitar. I'm actually really glad I didn't end going for an Epiphone Dot, cause it's just as good. I paid 110$ because they're not making them and everyone's slicing down prices, but it used to go for 300$+. It's not an extremely expensive guitar, but it's a wonderful instrument, and I got it 290$ cheaper than an Epiphone Dot. I've honestly never played the Gibson E335 that they're both based off, but I bet it's nice. I just don't see there's enough of a difference to pay 900$ more."

It's more like 1600 to 2000 more! I've got one of them babie also it's labelled
HB30 I think I paid $200 for mine a couple years ago. It to is a great guitar with a couple mods. I rewired my and replace the pots also swapped out the pickups for some Dimarizio Airs. I did have a Gibson ES335 and the Washburn came setup better than the Gibson. I could never get the action as low as I wanted with out extreme fret buzz. The Gibson was a beautiful guitar but the plain jane HB30 gloss maple laminate plays and sound better than the gibby ever did. Don't get me wrong I have nothing against expensive guitars I have a Taylor a couple of Martins and a Gibson but all that counts in the end is how it playes and sounds to your ears not how much it cost.
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I bought this Korean Squire II new around 1989. I later looked for an American Strat but never found one that was worth the money. The early Korean factory was in competition with the American factory and it shows. The frets show normal wear for the years I played it, but the finish on the neck shows absolutely no sign of wear. Same with the body. I’ve acquired a couple of MIMs since 1989, but still haven’t found an American I thought was worth the difference in price. I play the Squire II with the worn frets occasionally because it still rocks. I might sell it or give it away when I can no longer play.
 

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MK-Ultra said:
First time I've ever seen 'desirable' and 'Squier' in the same sentence...
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LOL...

A friend at work decided to start playing guitar and bought an Affinity Squier Strat Pack w/amp, strap, etc. He was complaining that the thing never stays in tune so I told him I'd take a look at it.

It was a nice looking guitar with a rosewood fretboard, didn't feel cheap at all. Tuners were loose, neck bolts were loose, tremelo springs were loose, guitar was sportin' 9's, a true tuning nightmare. I tightened everything up, including the tremolo springs until the bridge would sit flat on the guitar body even when doing string bends, popped some ghs fatties 10's on there and had a great time jamming on that guitar.

I have always preferred humbucker equipped guitars, but that affinity squier strat was a blast to play. I enjoyed it so much I went out and bought one!

You can get a USED one CHEAP, and you can sell it for the same price if you don't like it. Can't beat that. Good luck!
 
embersinthewind said:
I bought this Korean Squire II new around 1989. I later looked for an American Strat but never found one that was worth the money. The early Korean factory was in competition with the American factory and it shows. The frets show normal wear for the years I played it, but the finish on the neck shows absolutely no sign of wear. Same with the body. I’ve acquired a couple of MIMs since 1989, but still haven’t found an American I thought was worth the difference in price. I play the Squire II with the worn frets occasionally because it still rocks. I might sell it or give it away when I can no longer play.
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Just wondering if anyone else has a 88-92 Korean Strat and likes it too... because I have a 199(0-2) (approx) fat strat which I always loved the neck and had no real intonation problems with either. I had bought a new Squire Stagemaster as my first guitar around 1995 Im guessing but it was a sorry excuse for an out of tune locking nut turd pos.... I actually downgraded to the Korean (It was second hand :rolleyes: I was young and foolish to be honest) and I still play it now it just felt 'nicer' than the cheaper mexican strats.... To be honest very little is left of the original, except the body/neck/tuner-heads and 1 pickup, the rest I re-wired and PUP'd over the years. My main guitar Is a USA hardtail modded to H/S/S... yet funny thing is I actually bought the Fender and modded it to Play like the Squire but be.... y'know... not laughed at :p And what I was very suprised at was the fact its a solid bod too... and I figure that is the only reason I never bounced it off a wall, without wanting to add that 'Im a rockstar' reckless attitude. ha ha
Sorry for the long post.
Oh and Ive returned to it again :o I only stumbled on this site looking for a wiring setup for the Idea I have. Ill start a post on it tommorrow, very sleepy. :)
 
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