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I like your ideas. Thats a neat little walkin' guitar in the verse. bow-bow-bow-bow-ba-bow-bow.:) Fun indeed. I can only playback in lo-fi, so I'll withold any mix comments.
 
Some Beatles goin on in there......

How does that drummer keep playing the kit on the left while he runs over to hit that crash on the right?:D

Lotsa chorus goin on in there too. I love chorus but there's a bit too much here IMHO.

Cool tune.:cool:
 
ok im gonna be brutal....




this is fuckin coool as hell...great voice...the mix sucks for the most part...but who cares im not a sound engineer..(nor will i ever be).....seriously ...tho ...the vocals..sweeeeeet.
is this double tracked(vocals)..or is that an effect???..

that guitar line in the verse is catchy as hell...nice harmonies..



jamal
 
I like the song. I'd like to have heard a little different drum pattern. 16th's on a high hat with snare on 2 and 4. A 16th feel through out.

Really good vocals and guitar riff. Good song.
 
Yeah.....it sounds like you mixed the drums from the drummers perspective. You should reverse it so it's the way an audience would hear it.

But I like the crap out of the song and your guitar playing. Sounds sort of like that guy from Atlanta Rhythm Section. Very cool tune bro.

Oh BTW welcome to the board....now get over to chris' thread and post your picture. :D
 
Jamal Bucket said:
ok im gonna be brutal....


...the mix sucks for the most part...but who cares im not a sound engineer..(nor will i ever be).....


jamal
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Jamal,

I appreciate the "brutality". Tell me more - be more specific if you have the time. The fact that your NOT a sound engineer does not make your opinion any less valuable. While I want critiques from a "techno's" perspective, I'd love to hear some opinions from a "listener's/musician's" perspective - sound wise, that is.

As far as the vocal, it's double tracked. I copied the original vocal to another track and delayed it by (20 -30ms). Then I panned the original vocal and the delayed vocal slightly left and right, respectively. I did add some additional delay during the "chorus" in an attempt to cover up some minor vocal "faux-pas".

In any case, thanks for taking the time to listen.

BPOCO
 
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Lt. Bob, et. al.

Lt. Bob, kjam22, M. Brane, mbuster - Thanks for your input.

M. Brane/Lt. Bob - Extra thanks for the input on the drums. I've done that with cymbals in the past and nobody has said a word. So, I never thought anything about them. However, most of the input I get from friends is very general (and generally not helpful).

But after reading your posts, I'm finding the cymbals very distracting. You guys are right on target. It's this type of constructive criticism that has drawn me to this board.

M. Brane - as far as the chorused vocal goes, I was trying to simply fatten to vocal a bit - but it got out of hand.
 
Nice tune man, I'm diggin your voice and guitar tune.
I see what everyones saying about the drums though. Although I probably wouldn't have noticed had I been the first post.

I dont like the cranky instrument you threw in there at about 2:05 and then a bit later down the road.

I also could have done without the chorus, but thats just my opinion.


Other than that the tune rocked!
 
Cool Song - which is the most important part of a "mix," right? You sing well, and I REALLY like the bg vox...you're screaming your head off, full voice. Jamal Buchet (a.k.a., "The Only White Jamal In America") does that, and I think it's cool.

constructive part
1. Cymbals
The cymbals were mentioned earlier, so of course, I noticed them...LOL. You know, my drummer plays with 2 HUGE crash cymbals, and they're on opposite ends of the kit, so the panning didn't bug me so much. I think they're too loud, though.

2. Lead Vocal
You sing well, and it's gonna' kill me if I can't remember who you remind me of... Anyway, I'd ditch the chorus on the lead vocal. I hear what you're saying about fattening it up, but I'm convinced Ozzy is the only person who can effectively pull off a heavy chorus on the vocal. As a substitute, you might try actually doubling the vocal. I'm doing this on almost all of my leads now, and it helps. The trick is to make it NOT sound like it's doubled, though. So what I do is take the best vocal track, and make that my true "lead" vocal. Then I take the other one, and mix it @ 12 O'Clock, right with the first vocal, but pull the level on it down until it sounds natural (i.e., not doubled). I know it sounds ridiculous to say "mix it until you can't hear it," but it works. It fattens up the track without creating a distracting sound.

I liked the ratchet noise...what did you use for that?

Post lots,
Chris
 
this is good stuff man

you got a nice "in your face" sound out of everything in my opinion...but then kind of washed it out with the chorus effects a bit.

still, i like it.

as far as the rattle percussion thing that cake uses all of the time - i think it had its place, i liked it.

some really nice hooks in the melody...like "another drink another fall" (or whatever)...cool melody.

what kind of gear are you using?
 
The waters are fine! Good song.

The crash symbols are kind of annoying but the rest sounds fine.
Sounds like you may be running your guits direct? I could be wrong like many times before.

Great job and keep'em coming!
 
I think I'll fix the cymbals ....

Chrisharris - Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate it. The singer is not me. It's the co-writer of the tune. I gave it a try, but my voice just didn't work with this song. I'll save my voice for a ballad. Anyway, I'll give your advice on ditching the chorus and try the double track method.

The rachet sound was a midi patch (not sure if it's standard MIDI) on my soundcard called Vibraslap. You either like it or hate it.

Agreed - the cymbals will be panned "properly" and brought down.

wes480 - I'm using Cakewalk 9.0 (along with Soundforge) with a Turtle Beach Pinnacle Sound Card (doubles as my synth). I've got a Mackie mixer and a "J-Station" (poor man's POD) for guitar effects. My mic of choice is an Rode NT1.

scottboyher - Your right - guitar's direct via my "J-Station".

Thanks all - BPOCO
 
This is a cool tune. Definantly has a 70's sound to it. The only thing I would suggest aside from what has already been suggested is to take the twang out of the guitars a little and maybe double them and spread them out a little and bring up the bottom end a touch... Just my opinion though.
Myx
 
I kinda like the cymbals that way. An effect I suppose, drop them in volume a bit and they won't stick out as much.

The mix is clear and the instruments well defined. A touch more guitars and bass maybe. The vocal effects work.

Good stuff!
 
Nice song. Good job on the vocals. Reminds me a little of....ah crap, I can't think of it.

Crashes are a bit loud (but you've heard that already ;))

Oh yeah, reminds me a little of The Climax Blues Band - Couldn't Get It Right...hmmm..well maybe that's just me :D

The mix could use some work, but you'll get much better advice on that from others here as I am a newbie at it.

I would have liked to see a little dynamic increase when you go into the chorus at 0:58 and later. The rythmn is set up perfectly to bring in a little bigger or harder guitar sound or something there IMVHO.

I enjoyed listenting to that. Keep it up :D
 
Mr. Stairs-Groovie tune!Nice and funky.Good recording too.A bit too much chorus on the vox....but that was mentioned.Drums could use a little EQing.They sound parched.Neat harmonies! :D Good song,good sound,good concepts.Diggin the vibraslap...Nice work!
 
Whew! Lemme' catch my breath and put down my guitar...I can't help playing along and jumping around when I hear something like that.

I'd rather comment without reading the other comments so excuse my repitition.

Vocal performance is cool. Like the harmony too. Lead vox seems like I'm hearing too much of the room to sit just right or something. Or maybe it's just that the drums aren't distinct enough?

Killer groove. Very fun song. I like the way it breaks down in places. Personally, I think it could use a more prominent solo section, or more animated solo, at about 1:30 and maybe more jamming at the end. It's like I don't want it to end.
 
Very cool. I kind find much to bitch about. This the kind of pop stuff I was doing with a local guy here so I'm predisposed to like it.
 
I really like this.I cant find anything wrong with it other than the whole mix could use a little bit of high end to bring it out of it's box.Sounds like the speakers have a blanket thrown over them....oops,I dont remember throwing that blanket over my speakers.:eek: ...other than that it sounds really good.I like the guitar riff,keys,bass,drums........everything....

Your vocal reminds me a little bit of one of favorite writer/singers/engineers,JEFF LYNNE of ELO fame.....the whole song has an ELO feeling to me.

Nice job.
 
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