V63M or V67G?

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If you HAD to pick between these two mics for deep male vocals, which would you choose and why? I currently have a V63M and wondering if I could get any better results using a V67G. I've heard good things about the V67, but am finding it really difficult to find experienced reviews with the V63M... thoughts?
 
I've bought a brand new v67 half a year ago or so, but haven't done too much with it to say with certainty. I have, however, tracked my own vocal with it, and was fairly flattered by it, but then again, my voice isn't a DEEP one, like the one you're gonna track. I thought the highs were just a hair rounded on it. I tracked my voice pretty close to the mic (3-4" through a p-filter) as I didn't sing very loud. The detail was all there, I thought, but then again, considering the price, there's only so much you're gonna get. When I got my Oktava MKL2500, and tried my voice through that - then I was truly flattered - I mean, just consider the diaphragm sizes (25mm vs 33mm)!! If I got close, I could sound like Barry White...
Just recently, MXL released a new version of the 67 called V67i - its got two diaphragms - one bright and one warm, but I have never tried it, nor did I ever work with a 63. Anyhow, that's my spill - might not be quite so relevant, but I hope it helps.
 
actually that helps a lot, thanks. maybe i should just clarify something though... my voice isnt DEEP DEEP, just a little...
 
i've got a v67. it's probably the first mic i'd hang for a singer with a thinner sounding voice. it's got a weird sounding midrange (not at all "clean/clear" sounding), and it's got gobs of proximity effect--which is why i like it on thinner voices--it certainly makes the singer sound bigger. that said, in the context of a busy mix, that midrange weirdness doesn't usually show up.

one of the things i like best about the v67 is that it's not got that overly harsh high end that a lot of the chinese "vocal mics" seem to have. i wouldn't call it "dark" like a lot of folks here would......but compared to some of the other really bright mics coming out of china, i suppose it *is* dark in comparison.

on a budget, you could certainly do a lot worse for a "vocal mic" than the v67. you could do a lot better too, but it depends on how much you're looking to spend.


cheers,
wade
 
I have (had both) the V63 was a freebie given to me by musician's friend for spending too much money with them last year. I absolutely hated that mic and gave it to my kid. It's serving time as a live vocal mic in his junior high rock band.

IMHO, the V67 is a much better mic than the 63. Better than the 67, I like the 69 (that is if we're sticking to MXL product) but it's a different animal all together.
 
you say the V67 is better than the V63? Why exactly?

what do you think would be better on kind of deep voices, but not real deep?
 
To me the 67 seems a bit more neutral with a slight lift in the high end. The 63 sounded thin and un-naturally bright...almost brittle. I tried it with acoustic guitar, vocals and electric guitar.

To each their own...I would suggest you try them out.
 
mrface2112 said:
on a budget, you could certainly do a lot worse for a "vocal mic" than the v67. you could do a lot better too, but it depends on how much you're looking to spend.
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I have a v67g that I like for certain vocal applications, but the weird mids do bother me in some mixes. And the hi-end can get a little weird, too. It's not brittle like other cheap condensers but it doesn't "open up" to my ear.

With my songs I do a lot of vocals that start in the low to mids and then "ramp up" to the high-mids. The V67 doesn't seem to be able to handle the transition. It actually sounds pretty good when I get to the upper-mids, but the low-mids just seem kinda flat to me.

I've been playing with placement of the mic to see if I can find a "sweet spot" with this mic but haven't found it yet.

I tried my buddy's SP C1 for vocals and I liked the mid-range better on that mic, but it was way too bright in the highs for my voice.

So, if my budget went up to about $300, is there a mic that you could suggest that would handle both the low-mids and the high-mids with more "transparency"?

Man, I hate all the jargon-y words but how else do you describe this stuff?
 
punkin said:
Better than the 67, I like the 69 (that is if we're sticking to MXL product) but it's a different animal all together.
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v69m is amazing. For one second I thought I was Johny Cash while singing through it
 
roygbiv said:
So, if my budget went up to about $300, is there a mic that you could suggest that would handle both the low-mids and the high-mids with more "transparency"?
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man, that's a real hard call without having heard your voice in person. what gives "clarity" to one voice can often introduce mud in another--much like you've noticed how the V67 works for some tracks and not so well for others. that's why we like to have a lot of mics. :D

sight-unseen, i'd prolly recommend you maybe try out one of the newer ADK mics (hamburg or vienna), or possibly one of the AT 40** series (4040 or 4060 spring to mind) mics, although the 4060's out of that range. people seem to like the mids in the AT's especially.

i like my BLUE dragonfly on things that need strong mid-clarity with some high-end sheen.....but it's real hit or miss depending on the vocalist, voice and song.....and is also out of that $300 range.

the aforementioned V69 might give you good results too. it seems to have "more" of what people love about the V67 without some of the "issues". maybe the "issues" are overshadowed by the "toobeyness', i dunno.

you might have good luck with a good dynamic, too--an sm7, or an re20 or re38.

if you came to my studio and the V67 didn't work, and depending on what i heard in your voice and is needed for the song, in no particular order i'd try you on the Dragonfly, the V77 , and the EV RE38. one of those would be bound to give us a usable vocal track.

in the end, i'd go audition a couple mics and get one that you think works best. isn't that the way it always goes? ;)


cheers,
wade
 
Dont overlook the new V67i. Much cleaner sounding than the V67G with the warm capsule.

Bottom sounds much more defined.
 
Thanks for the responses and tips. I'd really like to give one of those ADK mics a test-drive, but I don't see that they have any dealers? They only sell online?

I used an AT 3035 for a while (my buddy loaned it to me), and I found it to be an improvement on the V67 in a lot of ways for my voice. So I think I'm going to look into the 4040.

I'm also going to check out the v69. Or should I be careful with the tubeyness making the mids "flabby"?
 
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