V-Amp mp3's/soundsamples?

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Hi all,

I'm interested in the V-amp . Does anybody has mp3's made with the V-amp or knows a site with V-amp samples?

thx

greetingz

Brett
 
http://www.indiesound.com/Artist.cfm?ArtistID=321967

Both tracks were done using the V-Amp for everything but the drums.

The POD is good piece of hardware, but after playing both, I preferred the emulation of the V-Amp... the amps sounded more like the amps I used to own. Plus, you can pick up a V-amp for 99 bucks, and the POD goes for 299... I dont think even the biggest POD supporter would say it's 3 times better than the V-Amp.
 
I dont think even the biggest POD supporter would say it's 3 times better than the V-Amp

I would! And actually, the pod at 300 is only 2.3x as expensive as the V-Amp at 130.

I tried one the other day, finally, to see if it was worth the 130$ to get some new effects and sounds to add to my arsenal. I even took my own guitar and my own headphones (Am. Strat and AKG 240's) which I use with my POD every night.

That said, I think V. Walker does a good job of encapsulating how this thing sounds on his MP3s in the previous link. If you like that sound, get one. To my ears, there was a lot of annoying hiss, and it was thin, hollow, and just wrong sounding. The EQ, especially the treble eq, was very harsh and practically unusable. The V-Amp makes the POD sound like a million bucks, so in that sense, it is easily worth 2.3x as much.
 
It's all all a matter of taste I guess. After hearing several sound samples, I think I'll stick to the POD. First the hardware is much more solide (The unit has to travel a lot, believe me:) ), I'm a bit prejudice about Behringer and a this moment I kinda like the POD sounds more than the V-amp.
But then there is the price....

I know, maybe I'll change my mind the last minute:) over here it's about €400 for the POD and €200 for The V-amp. And my cash situation isn't that great at the moment..:-)

greetingz

Brett
 
Charger, would you please give me a link to one of your tracks with the POD tone? I would like to hear the superior sound that the POD is capable of, and might re-think the whole thing...
 
NobleSavage

click on the link leeching gave, on the the sam site there're also POD samples
 
I've heard the samples, and even owned a POD for a while... I'm more interested in hearing it actually being used in a home recording. Since Charger has some strong opinions about tone, I was hoping to hear his 'ideal' tone, so I could see if we share a common ground on what we are searching for.
 
NobleSavage, no problem. BTW, when I mentioned the hiss and thinness of tone, I was talking about my V-Amp tryout, and not your songs... I thought you did a pretty good job, and I didn't hear the hiss, though I could still hear some of the characteristic things about the V-Amp I don't love...

Here's some songs. ALL guitar sounds are Pod, all bass sounds are Bass Pod.

Here's an instrumental song with mostly clean sounds.
stream: http://artists3.iuma.com/site-bin/streammp3.m3u?130998
download:


And here's one with some heavier sounds:
stream: http://artists3.iuma.com/site-bin/streammp3.m3u?130993
download:


Here's one with a lead and some wah stuff through the POD also, kind of showing off how it sounds with a Strat (lead at end is with a LP though). I know, I know, I had a cold when I first sang it, and I've never updated it...
stream: http://artists3.iuma.com/site-bin/streammp3.m3u?126328
download:
 
Good stuff, Charger! I do think the POD was a good choice for you, based on the distorted tracks. They've got that distortion pedal sound, more than the sound of an amp overheating... which was the sound I was after. It's all a matter of what we hear in our heads, which makes it good that we have choices.

I sold my POD because it didn't sound like what I was looking for. The POD, V-amp and the others are advertised as a way to record loud amp sounds without actually having loud amps blazing. I was looking for the sound that I used to get out of my Marshall stack that I hocked 12 years ago. It's a thick, hissy, noisy sound, as most amps are when you crank them as far as they'll go and play on them for a few hours. When I got the POD, which I picked first because I fell for the hype that since everyone has one and it costs more, it must be better. I played and tweaked and played and tweaked and to my ears, never could get anything that didn't sound like one of those hot rodded customized amps that start to break up at 3, rather than 8... It's the sound you hear on most cds, and have for years now, but it wasn't the sound I was after. I complained and griped about it, and asked a million questions from other users and never could get a setting that sounded good enough to be worth the 349 the thing cost me. Finally, my guitar playing cousin offered me some cash for it and I sold it, disgusted with the whole thing. My wife got tired of hearing me complain, paged through a musician's friend and orded the V-amp. I got it, expecting more of the same noise I heard from the POD, and was pleasingly surprised when I was able to dial up the sound I was after extremely quickly. Like I've said before, to my ears the V-amp sounds more like real amps, where the POD sounds like idealized and customized amps. I've never heard a 100 watt amp cranked to 10 be quiet and without some noise, so that's what I was wanting to hear from an emulator. That's just me. If I heard the tones I wanted from the POD, as Charger does, than it might be worth paying 3 times as much for the POD. But if I didn't have a crunch sound in mind, I would probably go the discount route.

That's why I'm not a good tech snob. I don't care what the name on the box is, as long as it sounds and feels right. That's why after all these years, my Les Pauls and Jacksons all ended up in pawn shops and I waste my days with a Yamaha Pacifica and a Westone Spectrum. If the Beatles or Queen had recorded their stuff on 128 track digital disks with the latest and greatest technology, I might be worried about my results... but they had crap gear(in comparison with what is available to us) and they turned out ok.
 
hey charger,

I love the sound of that last song. Breaths more than the V-amp I reckon.
 
NobleSavage I was heartened to read your last post.

I've listened to some POD and (Roland? - very expensive anyway) internet samples and I hated them. I thought, god I get a much better sound from the line out of my $50 tranny practise amp with Boss ME-5 (that's old) effects. Then I thought it must be the internet line making them sound bad. To me they didn't have any real amp sound and what they did have was lots of cheap soapy "processing" and I couldn't believe how cheap the processing sounded - like plastic cornflakes music - they were so corny. If people weren't so serious about these sounds I'd have taken them for a very obvious joke.

Ayway I have thought for some time I may have very wierd ears because I love the sound of lots of cheap equipment including cheap 10watt overloaded PA speakers for guitar. I also have noted in shops that the sound I like is often opposite to the sales staff and preference is often for the far cheaper product (not always the case though of course).

Anyway I heard a couple of V amp internet samples and they got into me like those sounds that make you want to create music. They weren't 100% all that really great but they had that "element" or "spark".

Another thread on the V amp said it used a lower (33.1) sampling rate than the Johnson or POD (both 44.1) which purists do not think is a wholesome attribute. But maybe this is part of the "element"?

I have an 80's American strat plus I keep in the cupboard because I'm very fond of some of the things it will do sound and feel wise. But it remains in the cupboard most of the time because my main guitar is a $125 2nd hand strat copy with extremely cheap rattly hardware - but to me this cheap guitar (which the salesman didn't go much on) has got the f***ing goods! I don't think it's the brand of it that makes it sound good. Every guitar regardless of brand or model sounds different to me. I got envious of a friend's guitar one day because the rich warmth of it was something I've rarely heard and that was a hacked up old cheap to midrange copy too. Another friend of mine bought a brand new Les Paul in the mid 80's and I played it and played it and it did nothing for me. Oh dear sometimes I feel very alone with my strange ears!

I wanted to reply to your post to express some personal relief at your comments. I will listen to Charger's samples and I'm sure they'll be excellent. Maybe the POD has a sound that's good for mixing into songs - they certainly appear clean and (over)polished and maybe that translates into a cleaner, sharper mix?

No offense to high-end guitar gear lovers. I LOVE CD's made by classy musicians. But funny how I also really love my old 4-track tapes with all that noise and chaos and all those unexpected unedited mistakes! And I love some sounds recorded on pristine digital equipment but also on $2 ghetto blasters!

Praise be to sound, music and the lord who gave us ears to hear them!

Nige
 
Charger I've listened to your first two songs and the sounds you've made up are better than POD sounds I've heard sampled to date. The second song and sounds are fantastic. A credit to you and thanks for the listen.

Nige
 
I have to apologise somewhat for comments about POD. I've since gone back and listened to samples of the straight amp sounds - I think they do a good job of emulating modern commercial cd sounds if that is what you are after - except haven't checked out the clean sounds enough yet (I sold my soundcard today so it makes things difficult until I upgrade it!) First impressions of a clean sample were not that good.
 
Leeking said:
Nice link, Leeking.

I've a question about his review. Here he is comparing the V to the POD.

But then I found it. The one thing that makes POD shine above all the rest. I found it on the POD Clean amp model, and it was the same across the board after that. It's that point that the "tubes" just start to break up. That sweet spot you can push into with pick attack, and then back off. Line6 nailed it good. The V-amp got scratchy at this point. Almost as if it didn't know how to react. The V-amp wanted to turn dirty, but still kept the clean tone there. It didn't introduce rich overtones like POD.

Where he speaks of 'Pick Attack'.
To eleveate this couldn't you reduce the volume? Then in the mixer boost it up a bit if you needed it?
 

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