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Harvey Gerst
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I still haven't had time to do a shootout between these two mics, but I thought some of you may be interested in what I found when I took both of them apart and compared them side by side.
To disassemble the V67, unscrew the back ring at the bottom of the mic. Next, unscrew the large bottom green ring. You can now slide the green body shell off. There are two small screws holding the gold grille on. When you remove those, the grille will slide off, revealing the capsule.
To disassemble the C1, unscrew the 3 screws at the bottom of the mic, and you can slide the body shell off. There are three small screws holding the grille on. When you remove those, the grille will slide off, revealing the capsule.
Here's what they both look like inside, side by side:
First impressions:
The C1 is definitely has a better built housing and is heavier. The V67G is almost flimsy by comparison. I think I would put something like undercoating on the inside of the green body shell to prevent ringing, although I don't hear any ringing in use.
The C1 uses a single circuit board; the V67 uses two back-to-back circuit boards. Either method is fine.
The V67 has a transformer, the C1 does not. Good transformers can add a lot of body to the sound and prevent ringing on the high end. Bad transformers can cause severe roll offs and ringing. I know the V67 has a pretty good transformer, so points for the transformer (at least till I can hear the C1 directly compared).
Both circuit boards look pretty well assembled. A tie there. On to the capsules:
Wow, this is strange; the V67 capsule is solid brass with teflon spacers and brass rings, while the C1 capsule is aluminium and plastic with teflon rings. Points to the V67G - much more solid construction and engineering. The gold sputter is thicker and more even on the V67 capsule. They didn't sputter out to the edges; the mylar serves as an insulator. The C1 is sputtered lightly all the way out, so that's why they hafta use the teflon rings. Overall, the C1 capsule looks cheesier than the V67 - round goes to Marshall. Let's take a good look at the edge of each mic:
Yup, on the C1, it's teflon spacer, gold-sputtered mylar diaphragm, aluminum back plate, plastic body, clear mylar diaphragm, teflon ring.
The V67 has a brass ring, teflon spacer, gold-sputtered mylar diaphragm, brass backplate, brass body, clear mylar diaphragm, teflon spacer, and brass retaining ring. Mega-points to Marshall on capsule construction. Whoa, what's this?
Do you see what just caught my eye? This is the back side of the capsule, You can see the teflon ring, the clear mylar diaphragm, and the plastic body of the C1 on the left. On the right is the V67, where you can see the brass ring, the clear mylar diaphragm, and the brass body of the V67. I didn't see it at first either, so let's get in really close. Here's the back side of the V67 capsule:
Look closely. Now look at the back side of the C1 capsule:
Where the hell are the rest of the retaining screws for the teflon ring? Two screws? The screws are down so tight, the teflon is partially lifted away from the diaphragm. Those screws are supposed to be there to insure a good back seal and even tension. All I can think of is the robot in "Lost In Space", waving his arms and crying, "Danger, danger, Will Robinson".
Anyway, I reassembled the mics and I'll actually listen to them in the next few days.
Damn, while they were open, I forgot to see if the gold top (not the grille itself) is made of plastic or not. Both grilles have the coarse weave outer mesh, and a fine mesh inside the grille. A tie there.
I had to open it up and look. No, it's not plastic, it's metal on the top and bottom of the V67G.
More to come. Stay tuned.
To disassemble the V67, unscrew the back ring at the bottom of the mic. Next, unscrew the large bottom green ring. You can now slide the green body shell off. There are two small screws holding the gold grille on. When you remove those, the grille will slide off, revealing the capsule.
To disassemble the C1, unscrew the 3 screws at the bottom of the mic, and you can slide the body shell off. There are three small screws holding the grille on. When you remove those, the grille will slide off, revealing the capsule.
Here's what they both look like inside, side by side:
First impressions:
The C1 is definitely has a better built housing and is heavier. The V67G is almost flimsy by comparison. I think I would put something like undercoating on the inside of the green body shell to prevent ringing, although I don't hear any ringing in use.
The C1 uses a single circuit board; the V67 uses two back-to-back circuit boards. Either method is fine.
The V67 has a transformer, the C1 does not. Good transformers can add a lot of body to the sound and prevent ringing on the high end. Bad transformers can cause severe roll offs and ringing. I know the V67 has a pretty good transformer, so points for the transformer (at least till I can hear the C1 directly compared).
Both circuit boards look pretty well assembled. A tie there. On to the capsules:
Wow, this is strange; the V67 capsule is solid brass with teflon spacers and brass rings, while the C1 capsule is aluminium and plastic with teflon rings. Points to the V67G - much more solid construction and engineering. The gold sputter is thicker and more even on the V67 capsule. They didn't sputter out to the edges; the mylar serves as an insulator. The C1 is sputtered lightly all the way out, so that's why they hafta use the teflon rings. Overall, the C1 capsule looks cheesier than the V67 - round goes to Marshall. Let's take a good look at the edge of each mic:
Yup, on the C1, it's teflon spacer, gold-sputtered mylar diaphragm, aluminum back plate, plastic body, clear mylar diaphragm, teflon ring.
The V67 has a brass ring, teflon spacer, gold-sputtered mylar diaphragm, brass backplate, brass body, clear mylar diaphragm, teflon spacer, and brass retaining ring. Mega-points to Marshall on capsule construction. Whoa, what's this?
Do you see what just caught my eye? This is the back side of the capsule, You can see the teflon ring, the clear mylar diaphragm, and the plastic body of the C1 on the left. On the right is the V67, where you can see the brass ring, the clear mylar diaphragm, and the brass body of the V67. I didn't see it at first either, so let's get in really close. Here's the back side of the V67 capsule:
Look closely. Now look at the back side of the C1 capsule:
Where the hell are the rest of the retaining screws for the teflon ring? Two screws? The screws are down so tight, the teflon is partially lifted away from the diaphragm. Those screws are supposed to be there to insure a good back seal and even tension. All I can think of is the robot in "Lost In Space", waving his arms and crying, "Danger, danger, Will Robinson".
Anyway, I reassembled the mics and I'll actually listen to them in the next few days.
Damn, while they were open, I forgot to see if the gold top (not the grille itself) is made of plastic or not. Both grilles have the coarse weave outer mesh, and a fine mesh inside the grille. A tie there.
I had to open it up and look. No, it's not plastic, it's metal on the top and bottom of the V67G.
More to come. Stay tuned.
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