Truss Rod

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I'll weigh in on the metal / wood expansion thing.

Metals are good conductors of temperature, and each will have its own coefficient of expansion. So they tend to respond quickly and evenly to temperature changes. I expect that you will find, though, that the degree of expnsion with change in temperature of nickle-silver alloy (fret material) is pretty minimal. You're not likely to notice it at all, in fact, because the wood in which the fret is laid remains a bit elastic.

[I do know that chunks of milled steel about a foot long will expand or contract a few thousandths of an inch at the most with a change in temperature from a warm machine shop (where they were made to spec) and a cold winter warehouse (where the QC guy almost got the machinist fired for cutting them too short). Mystery was solved when they moved all the steel back into the warm shop and remeasured the units the next day].

What's at work here can be something else, and that is the ability of wood to take on and release moisture because of the change in relative humidity that accompanies a change in ambient air temperature. Hot air can hold more water than cold air. When wood gets cold, it dries out. In doing so, it will contract - a lot. A top can shrink as much as 1/8 " before it starts showing signs of stress. Thats a big number. A top that stays loaded at 10% R.H. is likely to split.

For everyone who's gotten raw fingers in the winter with those sharp fret ends that don't seem to bother in the summer, well, it's the fingerboard contracting as it dries out. Frets don't do that. [Probably means the instrument has been refretted, too, but that's a tale for another day].

So now apply these concepts to a laminated beam with one side finished, the other unfinished, and subject to constant stress. It's a wonder necks don't bend more. The truss rod is usually a two - way rod that, when tightened, acts to induce a reverse warp in the neck. Neck warping under tension? We make it better by adding a little more...

Hope it helps.
 
I'm a QC guy and among the items we tune are solid aluminum bars for metallophones (like a xylophone but metal bars) on a drill press,by removing material in selected spots.If the unit is coming in to my climate controlled (70 degrees year-round) QC area from a hot or cold warehouse, the pitch will be off unless you give the metal time to reach equilibrium.

Tom
 
Amazing stuff, isn't it?

The only reason I knew about the steel bars was that my older brother almost got fired for trying to get them to move the steel back into the shop...Man, LOL.
 
OK all this talk of truss rods incited me to adjust my own last night. I put lighter gauge strings on my guitar and was getting some fret buzz so i went to slacken the rod. All was going well til i heard this almight "crack" type noise. There doesnt appear to be any damage but needless to say i am concerned!!

Can any of you learned people tell me if it is normal for the truss rod to make such noises when adjusted (i was turning it left to slacken it off) and if it isnt what is likely to have happened........
 
Uh, ... no, it's not. You really don't want to make a habit of hearing that kind of noise from a truss rod. Could be a bunch of things, but in each case it means tension is let loose all at once.

Could be OK, as in some oddball movement of the rod itself. But the problems can develop where the cracking sound is related to a glued - in rod breaking its glue bond, or if the rod is a friction fit, actually fracturing at the neck / fingerboard interface.

If there's a real problem, you will begin to hear a buzz or rattle from a (now) loose truss rod, or there will be some evidence of a fracture. Your post didn't suggest either of those. A truss rod rattle is NOT a subtle thing, so if you don't hear that, take a deep breath and remember which way you turned that sucker and how much. Leave it alone if it will behave.
 
Well.... I have thoroughly examined my guitar and it seems to be ok.. I succeeded in eliminating the string buzz despite my moment of abject terror.

There doesnt seem to be any harm done. There certainly is no rattle or buzz to suggest I killed the truss rod. I didnt turn it that much, only about 1/4 - 1/2 turn if that but it was a bit of a bitch to get to move. Anyway it all seems ok for now so I shall mess with it no more.

I think in future I will leave this to the professionals until such time I can afford to replace this guitar (cheap as it is) if I screw it up.
 
See, now the guitar owes you. Tell it to behave itself or you'll take it to Radio Shack and show it all the soldering irons.
 
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